It breaks my heart to see albion arguing with each other like this... really it does... *sniffle* Pfffft hahhaa *cough, cough* *sniffle*

I also seem to recall Mythic stating that such organized, cross-realm duels are legit.


So... I don't see the problem. I also... to an extent... don't see the problem with a zerg swarming in and rolling the duelling pit, though I prefer not to associate with such inconsiderate, dishonorable folk.


Then, I think we all have vices in this game. It takes alot of resolve for me to hold back from killing grey-con bonedancers in Uppland if I happen across them. If there is anything I hate worse than a hib, it's a bonedancer, especially if he's a valkyn.

Troll Savages = sexay, imo.

We set up duels on Galahad in the middle of the ruins -- the most common place you would expect someone... Then some Champion runs up and starts beating on a Paladin, and there're 30 of us just staring at him. Cleric started healing the Pally, so he went after the Cleric.


I could just picture him on the other end shouting, "Come on, my fellow Hibs! Kill them! And Mids, are you teamed up against me?!?!?"


We all got a good /laugh out of it.

nurse with the best post on this thread so far.

"Irony:

1)Playing a Massively Multi Online ROLE PLAYING Game and telling the people who ROLE PLAY to go to another server."


how is this an irony when there are SPECIFIC servers setup for roleplaying?


"3) If one event one evening caused someone to quit the realm or the server, that person should not play games at all since someone has to lose. Isn't it really just the straw that broke the camel's back. There was probably a bunch of frustration leading up to it."


you're right, there was a lot of frustration leading up to it, just that one incident put them over the top and they finally left. you know, having to retake 3-4 keeps each day before anyones able to go to emain would be rather old, and then when you get to emain and have 100+ albs that just zerg you, all thats exactly my idea of fun.

 

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Ex: The other night at the hadrian's/pennine border EoE rolled a group Tharf was in pretty hard...


lol You're all proud of yourself that a full group, or near to a ful group, of hibs beat the snot out of 4 albions? Felt the lag comming, and thought we were dead, but after a few seconds I figured we must have missed whatever it was. Did the only thing I could in either case, and kept going ahead.


Sorry to isult your friends Nurse, but that's precisly what they do, if they fall under the deffination I gave a while back as duelist. Those that do nothing but duel. And yes they do do nothing but leech off their realm. They do do nothing to help the realm in the things they want, like df, relics, ect ect. They wonder why we never have them, well there you are. It's people like them that cause it. And since they don't lift a fingure to help, and then go crawling to those that do to help them, they are indeed nothing but leeches. And sorry Nurse, folks dueling in hadrians have ALWAYS said "who cares" when informed that the keep not 2 minutes away from them is under attack. If they want to go be so chummy with people from other realms, they should leave albion and go to those realms.


If cross realm dueling is as "legit" as you say it is, why do CSRs ENCOURAGE people to break them up. Want to know why, because they can't really do anything, but they can get palyers to do it for them. It's one of those grey areas. It is cross realm communication, but it doesn't give out info such as raid times and places, ect ect. So mythic doesn't do anything about it. It's not important enough to bother with.


And yes those same realm duelists do make it much harder for people to play the game. The lag they create makes gettign anywhere near impossible. A few steps that should take all of a few seconds at most, becomes an ordeal of 5-15 minutes. I've sugested to them they take it out of sight of the heavy traffic areas, but they insist on screwing their realmates over.


Seanseless bashing IS stupid. ( I do apologize here too, since I should have put in senseless in the first place) Expressing facts about wrong behavoir that makes impacts, even small ones, on the other players of their realm is deffinatly different. And these are NOT small ones.


Next subject. The guards at albion keeps are indeed lower level than those at hib/mid keeps. I'm not the only one who has noticed this either. When we attack a keep owned by either hibs or mids, it's an almost constant red + guard spawn, with the occasional orange thrown in. Albion held keeps have 4 purples(the named and it's guards), very few reds, and almost all oranges. I HAVE compaired guard cons on the same keep, just to be certain of it. And just to drive the nail into it, I have even seen the NAMED as a red con in an Albion held keep before at level 10! Pretty certain that may have been a bug though.

And I've watched less than 2 groups of mids just farm away at the guards at Myr, with all our keeps in albion hands. Have you seen Albions even be able to come close to being able to do that? Bet you haven't. This was pre ToA.

As for the doors, dang skippy they are lower level. Or perhaps, somehow, the hibs hit them harder? Don't know how that is possible since albions have had the extra 20% melee dmg forever, plus Albion is supossed to be overall better at melee damage than hibernia. Prime example: Keepers held beno, both doors were level 10 fully repaired. We get spam the keep is under attack, we immediatly log the characters we had inside. Before we could even form up into a group, d1 was down. That would be less than 5 minutes TOPS.

Explain that? Please explain how that was even possible. You can't can you, because it's NOT possible unless Albion doors are not in fact the same level as hib or mid doors. It takes Albion a heck of a lot longer to break down even weaker doors with three rams! With everyone beating on the doors. And before you go spouting MLs or that such crap. This was post 3 siege per door, pre ToA.


I give specific examples. Some of which happen over and over. You give nothing.


I think Chanst is trying to drill into your thick skulls on how hibernia constatly puts down people for doing something, however when it's their realm that does it it's completely and 100% ok to do. Numbers is a piss poor excuse to justify such behavoir.


I apologize for the length of this one, but there's been 4 pages of stuff to respond to, since I went to work this morning.

"Sorry to isult your friends Nurse, but that's precisly what they do, if they fall under the deffination I gave a while back as duelist. Those that do nothing but duel. And yes they do do nothing but leech off their realm. They do do nothing to help the realm in the things they want, like df, relics, ect ect. They wonder why we never have them, well there you are. It's people like them that cause it. And since they don't lift a fingure to help, and then go crawling to those that do to help them, they are indeed nothing but leeches. And sorry Nurse, folks dueling in hadrians have ALWAYS said "who cares" when informed that the keep not 2 minutes away from them is under attack. If they want to go be so chummy with people from other realms, they should leave albion and go to those realms."


Sigh, I should have copied what I had initially posted but deleted since you basically rehashed everything you said. You're generalizing. First of all, if they enjoy dueling, and only dueling, why do they need/want df, relics, or etc (whatever etc. may be)? They've obviously got all the exp and gear they need.


What about the people who don't duel, and only PvE? They must be leeches too, considering they do nothing but farm loot and level characters which is doing nothing for the server. Like YOU said, who cares what they're doing, as long as they're enjoying themselves and not interfering in your gameplay.


I enjoy dueling. I don't want, nor do I like DF, nor have I been in DF in I would guesstimate a year+. I don't care if we have relics, in fact, I'm glad we don't. I hope it encourages more hib/mids to reactivate or roll here as well as encourage albs to leave for greener pastures. I help. In fact, my entire guild is routinely some of the only people defending (when we had relics). [NOTE: I'm not saying it was just our guild, I was mearly stating that we are out there, a lot] I've been there taking keeps, relics, df for others, simply stopping a force, along with a lot of my guild members. In fact, we are one of the guilds that was typically always out there.


Have I said "who cares" to someone stating beno was under attack while I was dueling? Sure. Have people who were in Odin's roaming around said "who cares" to your request? I'm sure. Why? Because they were having fun. That one instance makes me a leech because I enjoy dueling?


You're a hypocrit plain and simple, Tharf.


"And yes those same realm duelists do make it much harder for people to play the game. The lag they create makes gettign anywhere near impossible. A few steps that should take all of a few seconds at most, becomes an ordeal of 5-15 minutes. I've sugested to them they take it out of sight of the heavy traffic areas, but they insist on screwing their realmates over.


Expressing facts about wrong behavoir that makes impacts, even small ones, on the other players of their realm is deffinatly different. And these are NOT small ones."


The places where duels are typically held are not heavy traffic areas. I'm not going to sit here and spout them off (eg: listing off Mist's website for ML raid times), but they aren't there. I'm sorry but you're incorrect in your assessment. Nor do you provide any facts to prove duelers hurt the game.


They're having fun, but you don't approve of it, so they shouldn't do it. You are senselessly bashing these people. Again, I'll quote you, because it still applies:


"Bashing folks for playing the game how they want to play it, is extremely stupid. People play for different reasons, just let them play and keep your nose out of it. If folks can't handle it, then I suggest you stop playing on normal servers, and go to those that focus on one aspect of them, and leave the rest of us who like varity alone."


Did I mention you're a hypocrit?


[EDIT: Just because I was rereading your post and found this so humorous:


"like df, relics, ect ect. They wonder why we never have them, well there you are"


We never have DF? rofl

We never have relics? We just recently lost the strength relics after holding them for... how long again? Oh yeah, we NEVER have relics. /laugh]

"I love playign Call of Duty in the night after some daoc... then, joining a server... it happens, that the german team (i always play German) is always outnumbered (by 2+ sometimes up to 10 !) I don't bish/cry about it... CHALLENGE. I like it. (It's a FPS in case you didnt know), i can't decide who plays on which side"


comapring realm population issues to uneven teams in an fps is like comparing apples and oranges...

 

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