Busted

Drusain we cought you red handed now give us names and pics dammit!!

<< Hindsight being 20/20 I do like your idea. I am not the best at much of anything much less some in-fighting battle where someone literally hates you. I have had it explained to me to ignore the person. I have an issue with letting a sleazy underhanded person get away with the snide backbiting comments.>>


LOL you did it again! Daig say what you feel just don't add the personal attacks! You can say anything you want about what she has done to you, you can say you feel she is un-trust worthy, but drop off the "Sleazy"


see where I'm going with this?

 

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Poor Dru dru.

 

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AH yes.. I see your point. Hrrm, now that is hard. Okay - I may be thick headed, but eventually I can see a point if it is shoved at me enough times. Going forward I will attempt this route (At least when I am calm cool and collected hehe) Thanks Bart!

<<After last night's "relic raids" I don't blame her for not wanting to follow you.>>


Which would be true if the reason she wouldn't follow him were because of his leadership abilities. Her reasons are completely totally inexorbably personal disquised as it being his leadership.


Honestly..the appropriate thing to do would be to bow out and state it was because of a personal history and leave it at that. No one needs to know your opinions when they end up degrading the person.


Daigen, I love you, you know that. And I would follow you anywhere.....even **GASP**into Atlantis which I dispise....but I do think there is a better way to address this. I mean I think I know why you do it here....so there can be no doubts or mistellings of what you are saying to her.

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I am probably the pot calling the kettle black here. But hey its still good advice <me thinks>

 

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A person learns by doing.


Real military typically has training, schooling, and tons of precedent and procedure to produce the desired outcomes.


Potential emerging leaders in DAoC only have stubbornness, thick skin, and hopefully the ability to obtain the advice of proven others to get up to speed.


After that, it's all just a matter of learning lessons.


The only advice I’ll continue to offer, is make it fun. A leader should never have a bad day. Even if you are more pissed off than you have ever been in yoru life… Be gracious - Thank everyone profusely for helping, take the blame for everything, and call out a few good deeds for all to know.


People will walk away with a good feeling, and the next time that leader steps up, odds are you’ll have more people’s respect than the previous battle, regardless of outcome.


Keep going out and applying your learnings, and eventually you’ll become a winning leader. Unless you are fighting Hibs. Or Mids. I mean, let’s be realistic here.


I’ll hook up to help a person who can lead a group to a good time, even if their track record of success is low. But, have a leader go off and berate their army, calling names, or placing the blame publicly on an individual or group, and I’m unlikely to be inspired to donate a couple hours of my life in the future in support of their goals.


That being said? I think this conversation would best be dealt with if associated more with “thick skin” and “graciousness”.

 

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Maradon has ears made of toast.


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Exactly Macylynn, and for the suggestions as to how best deal with it going forward. I make no pretense of knowing everything. Each time I have moved forward and posted something on the VN (This makes number two for those counting) I have, this time included, gotten great advice on how to handle the situations. That and a chance to air the laundry are pretty much my only reasons for doing this. (Oh and to give Jarvssen something to make popcorn to, and for Dru to be able to farm and hijack)