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joke.
decal can still prosper without macro programs
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Yula_the_Mighty Title: Lore Master
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Registered: 2004-1-25 06:01:16
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MT_Gouru posted:
He claims it only a change in wording. It is not. It is a change in MEANING, and a big one.
And he is saying that their policy is different than their CoC? Then why have a CoC? Can we have their policy published so we have some guidelines then?
Let me tell you what is happening. The first thread on this subject was closed with the quote I provided. Since that time further threads have been created asking for additional clarification. All such threads are being deleted by IBN. There is yet another thread on their board but I expect it to disappear at any moment.
Odds are IBN will be here shortly to repeat to you the same statement that I quoted.
Isn't the statement from IBN - nothing has changed sufficient at the moment. There is a good chance he will provide a more detailed post later on but he got a lot of fires to pour water on...
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Flenop Title: Warrior of Time
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Registered: 2002-7-13 20:18:18
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Ibn's post (in this thread) does at least show that trade, buff, and crafting bots are all still OK.
Though the CoC could use more clarification on what IS enforced and what isn't, to be honest. It doesn't need it though.
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Date Posted:
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Woah, woah woah. You know, you can check with us on things like this, some people already have:
http://forums.ac.turbine.com/showthread.php?t=23705
Keep in mind that this clause has been part of the EULA for some time: "We reserve the right to prohibit the use of any third-party software to change game play in Asheron’s Call, without prior notice to you."
There are no plans to change current CoC or otherwise enforcement. We're not banning people for tradebots or buffbots or macroing arrowheads.
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No plans to change current CoC? Then what is this new one people are quoting?
And yes, you do reserve that right. It looks like you just did so.
Are we supposed to be following some CoC that exists in the past and in the minds of your Envoys, or the new one? The past was specifically limited to combat macros, the new one no longer has this limitation. What are we supposed to be following?
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Date Posted:
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Decal is a Macroing Program. Macroes are not unattended Bots. Macroes are simply instructions you can send with a single command that do something in the computer. Bots control the Macroes not are the Macroes. I personally think that Decal can survive without Bots and keep AC easy for most of us to handle. Letting a Program play for us is in my opinion wrong. But letting a Macro simplyfy a bunch of commands still leaving me in control of activating it is not.
I hope when the API comes out they will make it so that plugin makers don't have to work through Decal that we can give the Developers of Decal a break from all this nonesense rule figuring out stuff. They have done alot to make what we have now and I don't beleive they should be having to break their buns trying to figure out now if Decal is even a legal way of playing AC.
I have been playing for a while with Decal and I even made my own plugin which I like and doesn't Bot my character. I would like to see the ability to add functionality to the game be kept and something similiar to Decal Continue
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Mawnee Posts: 9
Registered: 2001-3-26 11:19:02
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I've found it very tough to get a read on anything the guys at turbine say. Sometimes they are nice and assuring, then they bust out the iron nazi fist and alienate another chunk of thier dwindling player base. I'm starting to get the feeling that since turbine has other projects on thier burners, AC has become a testbed to test the limits of player base tolerance.
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Date Posted:
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I would point out that a long while back in a post Ibn made he stated that UCM was running any macro unattended while affecting combat...
This would mean that even if you had started up (pick your favorite utility macro here) say RoboChef and made Arrow Heads... while standing in the Drudge Hideout where the drudges agro on you (you are an Uber, well armored, fully buffed tradesman) you could be banned for UCM...
So the In combat became affecting combat...
I have also read and been disturbed by the new wording... I run a free buffbot (or did until yesterday  ) and by the current wording, I think Buffy Buffbot may fall into that same area that Gouru refers to (She has a really high assess person...)
I would hope that Turbine will (again) change the wording and include "Affecting Combat" in it in some way...
Buffy is one of those "Dedicated Accounts" that some of us have... That account and Character have no other purpose but to be a buffbot.
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I seriously doubt Turbine will ban Decal, trade bots, portal bots or buff bots since they would lose a lot of their players, especially the multiple account holders.
I hope all the Decal devs keep working on it while the wording is questioned. Many of us are playing now in the expectation that Decal will come back. If there is no Decal and no additional features get added by Turbine to compensate, then I'm gone.
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If Decal dies then AC dies I will quit this game after playing the last 5 years and then Turbine can suffer for the player base they will lose. I know alot of ppl will quit faster than you can blink an eye. So turbine get your heads out of your asses and stop being so damn stupid you want AC to die ??
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Date Posted:
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i just want to kow if its still safe for me to run Og in Shoushi still... i can't afford that account to get banned with 4 level 130+ toons on it.. and my buffbot that i usually let run cause i play my mage on my other account
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