Well this post has been fun...but someone had to come and ruin it with her "I will get the last word no matter how dumb it makes me look" attitude


You must be a real peach IRL Mary


And be careful Korrigan and keep an open mind, you are being pulled into Mary's tractor beam ....mmmmmmmmmmmmm not all of us are pro-*CM, but HALF (according to Mary) of us DO ENJOY the extra benefits that decal provides!!!


Ciao!

I better repeat, once again, that I enjoy the extra benefits of Decal too, before people make too many assumptions about me ... I used "BS/2", the excellent "The Stoic" for buffing, "UST", "Quest Timers" and a few others.

I also don't mind playing AC1 without any plugin, I'm not dependant on Decal, but I really appreciate the confort it brings when it is available.

While I dislike people who have their computer play the game for them, I have nothing against Decal.


Reread my previous post carefully and you will understand what my real concerns with the problem debated in this thread are.

 

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"Decal is not a rules issue for me, it’s a cheating issue"


How is it cheating if it is equaly available to all players? Cheating would imply that someone would have an unfair advantage. We are all privy to all the same utilities and are all welcome to develop our own utilities/plugins to decal so please enlighten me on how it is "cheating".

tag to see where this goes ..


an i just install my ToD keys ..maybe i should of waited

Especially now as the Turbine Devs are supporting Decal, and have stated that they have no intention of 'breaking' the game to the point where Decal can not be used.


If the Turbine Devs are supporting Decal, what kind of support does that leave Mary and her ilk?


Sounds like sour grapes to me, and even worse, purposely pursuing a known lost cause, which is NOT mentally healthy, as any educated person could tell you.

 

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Huh ?

http://forums.turbinegames.com/showthread.php?t=23793





No, Turbine still does not "support" Decal.

And after this thread here, I start to seriously wish they would, or that they would finally add the official plugin system that was planned.

 

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1) Cheating IS by definition the breaking of rules. Decal is permitted by turbine, therefore it is not cheating.


2) Evading bans is a violation of the boards TOS which you agreed to. This could, if the owners' of VN so desired, be pursued legally as you violated a contract to which you agreed.


3) Personaly attacks are a violation of the boards TOS which you agreed to. This could, if the owners' of VN so desired, be pursued legally as you violated a contract to which you agreed.


4) Decal will come back.


5) Have you been disowned yet?

I reread your post(s) Korrigan, and I stand by what I said...


You sound intelligent enough to understand that a small percentage of the population is going to get away with what they can, (and most of us know who they are) and I have run into a few of them myself, but what is the point of getting yourself worked up over it? If it bothers you...report them! I don't...life is too short man...


I have several fav hunting spots...and if someone is in one of my favorite spots, macroing or not, I go to another spot....Dereth is a sizeable world! (but then again xp is not what matters to me, 5 years and my highest lvl is 124 TYVM)...That may be different to you...and I respect that..I could care less what ANYONE else does with thier $12.95/month.


All 3 of Marys rabid followers AND her supposedly, were once Decal users themselves... but once they started to believe the propaganda that she was spouting they became puritans like her...and nothing anyone could say would change their minds. Reminds me of what happened in 1938, 1991, 2001,....you get the picture....but this is not real life...it's a freakin game!


If the UCM'rs want to take to risk of being banned, (and it does happen!), then let them...don't compromise and depress the decal devs. Decal in and of itself does not promote UCM, UCM is built upon the Decal interface...removing the War aspect of Decal may solve the problem, but there is always going to be someone to figure out how to get around it... Welcome to the 21st century!


I respect your feelings, as I hope you do mine, but there is plenty of gameage for all of us and I hope to fellow with you in the future and kick some major arse....with BS2,NB2, and all our other favorite DECAL plugins!!!!!!


Ciao!

I'm in no way responsible of what sweet mary posts here, and I have no intend of supporting her in any way.

My major concern with this thread is not macroing, cheating, or whatever else of this kind.

I discussed the war aspect of Decal in another thread, please stop mixing everything up.


Let me try to explain why I'm worried by this thread once again :


What worried me is the fact that if Decal, something that is not officially supported and is made by third party programmers which are not paid nor have any relations with Turbine, happens to end, it will most certainly mean the end of AC1 too. I therefore hope for a quick reaction from Turbine to make some kind of official plugin interface. I don't think it's healthy when a company's product totally depends on a third party product to survive. Imagine if some real life event makes it that tomorrow, all the Decal devs are forced to stop working on it, and Decal disapears ? That would certainly accelerate the end of AC1. And that is what I am worried about.


Hope I managed to explain my concern in an understandable way now, even my bad english.

 

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For definition purposes.


A member of SM's monarchy purchased his account from another player who had used macro's to level it (He was not a member before he purchased the account).


This person claimed that they were not aware that it was against the rules (to purchase an account)and that he did not in fact macro.


Mary stated she believed him and that as long as he didn't break her monarchy rules he could stay.


And yes, I am and have been watching this thread with some interest.