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Author Topic: Help: AC keeps crashing randomly when I click on any decal program.. [Locked]
CyranosCottage
Posts: 40
Registered: 2001-12-23 10:59:15
AC crashes sometimes as soon as I login, sometimes when I just click on a decal program, and other times when I am on AC for a little while then click on a decal program..


No clue whats causing it.


Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.4.0


type, enabled, name, version, clsid

Plugins, 1, AgentZ, 0.9.0.13, {359E547B-5302-4134-80F2-3BE5C31EC828}

Plugins, 1, ELTank v2.6.0.20-Beta-6c, 2.6.0.20, {39E9E0F5-85D7-4C38-87D6-3BBCB853357E}

Plugins, 1, MuleShopper, 1.2.0.1, {43BA1416-2A30-4869-AEC4-5F96F17EC877}

Plugins, 1, GoArrow, 1.0.0.0, {46BBF551-8578-4A59-B2FB-B5D9F4C719FA}

Plugins, 1, Sort It! Vsn 5.9.5, 5.9.5.0, {70DDE3AE-5ADD-4003-9600-C2F6830D7670}

Plugins, 1, Mule Trader Beta, 0.0.0.345, {9D762D6E-6444-485A-B242-C50386013763}

Plugins, 1, Quest Timer, 2.4.0.2, {BB51962C-2EEE-4E67-A032-EEC1F11E66C8}

Plugins, 1, Target Info, 3.1.0.0, {BF8C22F4-B172-4922-B3D4-26E6985E87AC}

Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.4.0, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}

Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.4.0, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}

Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.4.0, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}

Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.4.0, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}

Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.4.0, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}

Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.4.0, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}

Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.4.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}

Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.4.0, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}

Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.4.0, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}

Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.4.0, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}

Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.4.0, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}

Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.4.0, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}

Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.4.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}

Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.4.0, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}

Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.4.0, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}

Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.4.0, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}

Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}

Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}

Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}

Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}

Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}

Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}


Operating System:

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)


[Protected Storage Service] : Automatic


Decal Settings

[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)

[Portal Path] : C:\Program Files\Turbine\Asheron's Call - Throne of Destiny\

[Launcher App] : acclient.exe

[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com

[memlocs.xml] : 24464 bytes, Version 0.0.11.2687

[messages.xml] : 52004 bytes, Version 2006.01.01.1

[Video Memory] : 124776448


D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_27 is required)

[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)

[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)

[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)

[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)


---Support Libraries ---

Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks

[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed

[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 1)

[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed

[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed


C++ Libraries

[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.96.90)

[atl70.dll] : Not Installed

[mfc70.dll] : Not Installed

[msvcr70.dll] : Not Installed

[msvcp70.dll] : Not Installed

[atl71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

[mfc71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)

[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)


Microsoft XML Libraries

[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.50.2162.0)

[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.10.9404.0)


---Video Device Information---

[Device] : NVIDIA GeForce 6800

[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1

[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0041&SUBSYS_A3433842&REV_A1

[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{1B5C2E4E-2525-40F9-A5CA-91B48B12A8FD}\0000

[Manufacturer] : NVIDIA

[ChipType] : GeForce 6800

[DACType] : Integrated RAMDAC

[Revision] :

[MemoryLocalised] : 128.0 MB

[MemoryEnglish] : 128.0 MB

[DisplayLocalised] : 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)

[DisplayEnglish] : 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)

[DisplayWidth] : 1024

[DisplayHeight] : 768

[DisplayBpp] : 32

[RefreshRate] : 75

[MonitorName] : Plug and Play Monitor

[MonitorMaxRes] : 1600,1200

[DriverName] : nv4_disp.dll

[DriverVersion] : 6.14.0010.7801

[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail

[DriverLangEnglish] : English

[DriverLangLocal] : English

[DriverDateEng] : 8/2/2005 15:35:00

[DriverDateLocal] : 8/2/2005 15:35:00

[DriverSize] : 3908864

[MiniVdd] : nv4_mini.sys

[MiniVddDateEng] : 8/2/2005 15:35:00

[MiniVddDateLocal] : 8/2/2005 15:35:00

[MiniVddSize] : 3198560

[Vdd] : n/a

[RenderWindow] : Yes

[Beta] : No

[Debug] : No

[Signed] : No

[SignValid] : No

[Identifier] : {D7B71E3E-4301-11CF-8B45-498300C2CB35}

[DDIVer] : 9

[DDIVerEng] : 9 (or higher)

[DDIVerLocal] : 9 (or higher)

[iAdapter] : 0

[VendorID] : 0x10DE

[DeviceID] : 0x0041

[SubSystemID] : 0xA3433842

[RevisionID] : 0x00A1

[WHQL Level] : 0

[NoHardware] : 0

[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes

[3DAccelExists] : Yes

[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes

[AGP Enabled] : Yes

[AGPExists] : Yes

[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

 

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Cyrano de Bergerac (Level 275 Grief Tank 3-School/Axer)
Ulgrim the Unmerciful (Trade Mule)
19.8n 53.3w (Cottage)
Drakier  4 stars
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does it happen without any plugins loaded?
CyranosCottage
Posts: 40
Registered: 2001-12-23 10:59:15
I've turned some on, some off.. I am going one by one and uninstalling and reinstalling..


Making sure I have all the things required...


I am kind of narrowing it to el tank but I could be wrong

 

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Cyrano de Bergerac (Level 275 Grief Tank 3-School/Axer)
Ulgrim the Unmerciful (Trade Mule)
19.8n 53.3w (Cottage)
Drakier  4 stars
Posts: 1,486
Registered:
Generally those crashes are related to Video Memory usage in decal... the less video memory you have, and the larger the memory usage is, the more likely you are to crash decal because of it.


ELTank is a very large plugin with a very large UI. There are many controls on it, and each control uses a bit of memory. The plugins with more controls are more likely to use up more memory, thus increasing the risk of crashing while opening that plugin.


Generally, the crashes should only be when attempting to open the UI of a plugin, but it doesn't have to be.
Digero  3 stars
Posts: 580
Registered: 2002-10-21 23:55:01
CyranosCottage posted:

I am kind of narrowing it to el tank but I could be wrong



Does it happen when only Tank is enabled? Does it happen without Tank enabled? That'll give you an answer pretty quickly...

 

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CyranosCottage
Posts: 40
Registered: 2001-12-23 10:59:15
I've had el tank on decal, but even before I can open it in AC it will crash, but its not just when I click on el tank or any of its other subs like el track..


But AC does crash once and a while with out tank enabled in decal.


My computer I doubt is the issue since it is new. 3 gig, pent 4, 1024 ram, 128MB 6800+ video card.. I think I got that right.. I bought it from my friend and its a coustom built gaming PC..


I redownloaded almost all decal programs I have and redownloaded the requirements.. gonna give that a try.

 

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Cyrano de Bergerac (Level 275 Grief Tank 3-School/Axer)
Ulgrim the Unmerciful (Trade Mule)
19.8n 53.3w (Cottage)
Rodenator
Posts: 41
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Before uninstalling and reinstalling the plugins wouldn't it be easier to just turn all of them off and then start by enabling 1 plugin at a time till it crashed? jeez...
CyranosCottage
Posts: 40
Registered: 2001-12-23 10:59:15
Did that.. didnt work.


I would try one at a time and it crashed.. but I reinstalled each one and sofar so good..


Im guessing there was an error in one of the files or I didn't have all requirements properly installed..


Testing it out now and haven't had a issue yet..

 

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Cyrano de Bergerac (Level 275 Grief Tank 3-School/Axer)
Ulgrim the Unmerciful (Trade Mule)
19.8n 53.3w (Cottage)
Jothony  1 star
Posts: 89
Registered: 2003-9-2 08:50:35
You may have issues with one of those plugins, but generally speaking you're just running too many of them at once if you have all of those turned on. Decal is NOT in it's final release, and the Dev's clearly stated in one of their posts that the current version will use a lot of video memory and to only use a few at once. Your 1 gig of RAM and 128mb of Video memory could well be insufficient to run all those plugins at once.


Shoot, you don't need shopping and trade bot plugins running at the same time as hunting plugins like target info. Also I believe that there is a lot of redundant functionality between Tank and Agent Z, though I could be wrong since I don't run either of them. You might try to get by with just one and not both.

 

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Sort It! AND ElTank!


It's guilt manifested into your computer crashing.

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