It constantly crashes me. I've turned down the graphics, etc. and still it's very unstable. The previous decal was much more stable.


heres my export.

Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.5.0


type, enabled, name, version, clsid

Plugins, 1, TreeStats 2, 0.1.6.4, {9847B2B7-C7C7-42BA-9361-021D01715E8F}

Plugins, 1, playersOnline, 1.0.0.0, {1D16EB9F-E3E0-4332-BDEE-CDB4B8D4B2A6}

Plugins, 1, Mouse Wheel v2, 1.8.0.0, {66E67FB0-17B9-44B9-A044-8821EBC91668}

Plugins, 1, The Deep, 1.7.0.15, {E72999D8-9218-4FB8-A978-DF4320E64AF1}

Plugins, 0, Make It!, 5.9.6.0, {70DD2CC6-E638-4F43-9F15-C84A0FC7DC76}

Plugins, 0, Find It!, 2.9.7.0, {70DD5EF7-FE29-46C3-B0B3-4185327A35F1}

Plugins, 1, Alinco, 1.2.9.7, {4338186E-7AE8-4B9E-985D-98D692036EA8}

Plugins, 1, SSSort, 2.1.0.1, {B9765335-51EC-4C24-AE39-D6E1BA6AE4AD}

Plugins, 1, SkunkVision, 1.0.0.5, {B8B64AFD-3D96-490D-A70B-CE962227148A}

Plugins, 1, GoArrow, 1.1.0.1, {46BBF551-8578-4A59-B2FB-B5D9F4C719FA}

Plugins, 1, Target Info, 3.1.0.1, {BF8C22F4-B172-4922-B3D4-26E6985E87AC}

Plugins, 0, AmmoGimp, 1.1.2.0, {ED2A6D06-C27F-4A37-8043-D7E3B827F878}

Plugins, 1, ELTank v2.6.0.20-Beta-7, 2.6.0.20, {39E9E0F5-85D7-4C38-87D6-3BBCB853357E}

Network Filters, 1, ACDC Core Filter, 7.2.2.0, {2DB1B641-4039-4D69-831A-79915EC266CE}

Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.5.0, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}

Network Filters, 1, Population Filter, 0.0.2.5, {39EACE9F-1BF2-4E4F-BFBC-2FD9EB76A47B}

Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.5.0, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}

Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.5.0, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}

Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.5.0, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}

Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.5.0, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}

Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.5.0, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}

Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.5.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}

Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.5.0, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}

Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.5.0, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}

Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.5.0, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}

Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.5.0, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}

Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.5.0, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}

Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.5.0, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}

Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.5.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}

Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.5.0, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}

Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.5.0, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}

Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.5.0, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}

Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.5.0, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}

Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.5.0, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}

Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.5.0, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}

Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.5.0, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}

Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.5.0, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}

Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.5.0, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}


Operating System:

Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)


[Protected Storage Service] : Automatic


Decal Settings

[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)

[Portal Path] : C:\Program Files\Turbine\Asheron's Call - Throne of Destiny\

[Launcher App] : ACDCClient.exe

[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com

[memlocs.xml] : 24464 bytes, Version 0.0.11.2728

[messages.xml] : 52677 bytes, Version 2006.05.18.3

[Video Memory] : 255455232


D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)

[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)

[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)

[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)

[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)

[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)

[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)

[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)


---Support Libraries ---

Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks

[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed

[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 1)

[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed

[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed


C++ Libraries

[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.96.90)

[atl70.dll] : Not Installed

[mfc70.dll] : Not Installed

[msvcr70.dll] : Not Installed

[msvcp70.dll] : Not Installed

[atl71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

[mfc71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)

[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)


Microsoft XML Libraries

[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.50.2162.0)

[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.20.9818.0)


---Video Device Information---

[Device] : NVIDIA GeForce Go 6800

[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1

[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00C8&SUBSYS_09001558&REV_A2

[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{E0A0BEB5-2C23-4625-B162-68D706A743AE}\0000

[Manufacturer] : NVIDIA

[ChipType] : GeForce Go 6800

[DACType] : Integrated RAMDAC

[Revision] :

[MemoryLocalised] : 256.0 MB

[MemoryEnglish] : 256.0 MB

[DisplayLocalised] : 1400 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)

[DisplayEnglish] : 1400 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)

[DisplayWidth] : 1400

[DisplayHeight] : 1050

[DisplayBpp] : 32

[RefreshRate] : 60

[MonitorName] : Default Monitor

[MonitorMaxRes] :

[DriverName] : nv4_disp.dll

[DriverVersion] : 6.14.0010.7931

[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail

[DriverLangEnglish] : English

[DriverLangLocal] : English

[DriverDateEng] : 9/26/2005 05:24:00

[DriverDateLocal] : 9/26/2005 05:24:00

[DriverSize] : 3913472

[MiniVdd] : nv4_mini.sys

[MiniVddDateEng] : 9/26/2005 05:24:00

[MiniVddDateLocal] : 9/26/2005 05:24:00

[MiniVddSize] : 3224096

[Vdd] : n/a

[RenderWindow] : Yes

[Beta] : No

[Debug] : No

[Signed] : No

[SignValid] : No

[Identifier] : {D7B71E3E-4388-11CF-1368-0A2903C2CB35}

[DDIVer] : 9

[DDIVerEng] : 9 (or higher)

[DDIVerLocal] : 9 (or higher)

[iAdapter] : 0

[VendorID] : 0x10DE

[DeviceID] : 0x00C8

[SubSystemID] : 0x09001558

[RevisionID] : 0x00A2

[WHQL Level] : 0

[NoHardware] : 0

[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes

[3DAccelExists] : Yes

[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes

[AGP Enabled] : Yes

[AGPExists] : Yes

[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

Ack...bad news. I haven't upgraded yet, waiting for one more plugin.


Aren't we FORCED to upgrade after tomorrow's patch though?

 

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I must admit even with 1 of a number of plugins running I get constant crashes and I do understand plugins can cause crashes to but I have tried so many Alpha 7 pluginsd solo and still get craches I put it down to the core decal app itself, I have a 6800GT 256M GeForce card w/ latest drivers so it shouldn't (cant say 100% that it isnt) be a video card memory issue.


Ive tried lots different Alpha 7 plugins individually and with combos of plugins all without luck, crashes abound so I hoping for more with the next version of Decal.


Thats said we do appreciate all the work the devs do and hope this can be adressed.


Cheers

 

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For those running the new Go Arrow, uncheck "Automatically update recall coordinates" on the Settings > Route Finding tab. If you don't it crashes.

 

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i run the new decal3 alpha 7 on 3 computers.


one only has eltank buff bot running as close to 24/7 as i can manage.


a second is runing muletradeit 24/7 and used to log in a salavge expert nearly hourly so it also has sortit and agentz loaded.


the main computer for actually running a live toon has sssort, findit and questtimer running. occassionally i'll turn off those 3 and turn on makeit.


besides the occassional attempted to log in too quickly and CTD issue that is avoided by pausing between an account log out and next toon on account logging in, I've had 0 crashes on these computers since alpha 7 was released.


however, after about 28 or 36 horus i do need to close down muletradeit as the amount of memory acclient.exe is runing, starts out about 80-100 and can drop to about 40,000 K when minimized will slowly spiral up to about 200,000 K and start acting sluggish. so i close it down and restart when i notice that memory leakage has gotten out of control.


so claiming Decal3 alpha 7 is .... i'd say is bogus, the problem may lie in your comptuer setup or plugins.

 

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I get crashed even running around the landcape in Vissidel

 

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I haven't noticed an increase in crashing at all with the new decal.

I haven't touched it because of all the problems.


I've read the notes about what the new version is supposed to fix, but what does it actually fix ... in laymans terms? I mean the one "problem" that I had with Decal wasn't fixed ... ie that it appears to crash to the desktop more with Decal on (even if no plugins are running) that with it not on.

since i aplied that goarrow workaround i havent crashed 1 time

for me the new decal is working fine also no crashes yet on switching chars

Decal works great for me, it's the plugins that cause the problem. There are two recommended fixed for Go Arrow. Anyone who is using Go Arrow and is crashing should disable it and see if they still crash...I suspect that's the culprit right now for many people. I've also found that installing Tank FIRST before installing any other plugins helps Tank run better...at least for me.


If people are crashing, they need to get into the habit of disabling all plugins BEFORE posting here, and just run Decal, to see they you crash like before (meaing...do the same thing you did to cause it to crash before, and see if you can recreate the circumstance). Then start adding plugins one at a time until you identify the problem plugin and either look for a fix, or don't use it.