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Mysticeyez1
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He wouldnt put a virus in it.
Lil-Blub  2 stars
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Monolith_WE  1 star
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I for one hope you guys update it, or new version of it. As this only thing that keeps me playing and keeping 6 accounts sub.


As for

The team is considering eventually making it subscription based to avoid "complications" with over saturation on the servers.


I would not mind making a donation, but if I would have to pay per account that would kinda suck.


Either way I look forward to seeing new version.


Thanks
Faradn
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Subscription fees for an open source project you didn't start?


Ok...

 

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Yula_the_Mighty  1 star
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Faradn posted:

Subscription fees for an open source project you didn't start?

Ok...



Nothing unusual for that. Linux is open source, but you can buy modified versions of it, packaged up neatly, and so on from a bunch of different companies and there are even subscription fee versions (It is called annual maintenance or support fee...)


Same thing here. The old code is delivered as is - For free. You do not like it. Modify it yourself. Or pay the price if any...
Drakier  4 stars
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Yula:


99.99% of the code in LifeTank was developed by someone else...


Charging ANY money for plugins is against Decal Code of Ethics...


Put the 2 together and you have 1 HUGE no-no.


not to meantion, I feel as the others have posted that regardless of the Decal CoE, charging for a plugin which you didn't even originally design or have any hand in making, and only after the fact you "tweak" a few things.. you can't ethically charge for that... charging someone (making money off of someone else's work) is just bad bad form..


It's a bit different with Linux because it was a HUGE group effort and still is.. the kernel itself wasn't a group effort, but almost everything since then has been.. not to meantion, most of the stuff you pay for are personalizations on the packages, and actually shouldn't be using that much of someone else's code.
Ashake  1 star
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Not to try to ruffle feathers, but an honest question ...


If there is a code of ethics in place, should it not be enforced? In other words, IF the folks currently tweaking LTx WERE to decide to charge a "fee" of some sort - would the Decal Devs put some muscle behind their code and make Decal so it would no longer accept running LTx? I realize this is a hot issue - but I remember before when LifeTank first came out, and only ONE allegiance per server was "allowed" to use it, nothing was really done but a lot of verbal fencing.


My personal take? If you deliberately create/tweak a plugin that is designed to circumvent the CoC of Asheron's call ... Decal should not run it period. And if the Decal Devs are going to create a Code of Ethics that they expect plugin authors to follow - they should have a plan in place to enforce it, or you all just look silly.


Just my two pyreals' worth.

 

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Arch_Magi  3 stars
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Paraduck posted:

I know the site operator (and presumably coder) on MT and I really don't trust him to get anything done... so if this is the future of LT, it'll be interesting to see what all the hardcore macroers do, let alone the impact on the game in general.



Write a 3 line macro using AC Tools to keep ElTank alive (as some currently do). That or they will write their own UCMing plugin for Decal, become a respected person of a community and even trusted developer and continue to charge IRL $$ for their UCMing program then when they leave AC for other games, convince one of the biggest anti-UCM developers out there to take over his other plugins.





Ashake posted:

Not to try to ruffle feathers, but an honest question ...


If there is a code of ethics in place, should it not be enforced? In other words, IF the folks currently tweaking LTx WERE to decide to charge a "fee" of some sort - would the Decal Devs put some muscle behind their code and make Decal so it would no longer accept running LTx? I realize this is a hot issue - but I remember before when LifeTank first came out, and only ONE allegiance per server was "allowed" to use it, nothing was really done but a lot of verbal fencing.


My personal take? If you deliberately create/tweak a plugin that is designed to circumvent the CoC of Asheron's call ... Decal should not run it period. And if the Decal Devs are going to create a Code of Ethics that they expect plugin authors to follow - they should have a plan in place to enforce it, or you all just look silly.


Just my two pyreals' worth.



Ethics in programming ... what next, ethics in politics?


They already put in place a "method" that they can "deal" with it if they so choose (they have just not done it, and they said that they wouldn't do it for the "old LifeTank" ... but maybe they will for the new one) ... they can "black ball" any Decal plugin they want remotely.
SpK_WE
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Good old lifetank is still alive as I can see ;p


When I first released the source code of the plugin, it was clearly said that it must stay in the public domain and no profit must be made over it. If you want to sell stuff, create your own product.
MT_Gouru  3 stars
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To date we haven't blackballed any programs, except when the developer asked us to.


If the developer of LifeTank asked us to blackball it, we would.


And I'm talking about the developer, not some johnny-come-lately maintainer...

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