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Author Topic: Lifetank Xr, Admin Detection, And YOU! [Locked]
MT_Gouru  3 stars
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Lil-Blub posted:

Anyhow, As said.. Everything that decal represents is against the code of conduct with Turbine from what I remember. So censoring my particular plugin is exactly that. Censorship.



Code of Conduct states "Use of unauthorized third-party software or macros with the Software may be prohibited in the sole discretion of Turbine. " and the point is that Decal has NOT been prohibited by Turbine. They DO prohibit UCM, and it has been clarified a couple of times that attended means watching the screen, not 'listening for an alarm'.


When ToD first came out, they accidentally posted the AC2 CoC as the ToD CoC, and that one DID specifically prohibit ALL third-party software. When questioned, Turbine realized their mistake and reinstated the original CoC.


Turbine has made it VERY clear that they are against Admin Alarms, even if it is not currently specifically called out in CoC. They have done this both with attempts in the past to break them, and by requesting that they be removed from current macro software. Frelorn's most recent statement about 'attending' made it clear that they define it as at the keyboard, watching the screen.


As to the term, Censorship. Censorship is not illegal, nor even immoral. Censorship is required part of polite society, especially given the tendency of certain asocial types that believe that they should be allowed to say anything they want, anywhere they want, anytime they want.


Censorship on private boards such as ACVault is not only a good thing, it is a legal responsibility, so trying to play the 'censorship' card really doesn't accomplish much of anything at all.
Lil-Blub  2 stars
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As per YOUR opinion and insight.


See it's such a fine line. It was never moderated before. That is my point. Why should it all the sudden now? Only because you want being a decal dev want it quiet since it does not do what you intend to do or follow your opinions?


See that's actually censorship in the wrong context.


POINT IS... once again....


Never a problem BEFORE PARADUCKS POST having admin dectection in the plugin / decal... now it's a removed feature of "1 type of lifetank"...


You call it a rule now. And say it should infact be enforced.


Is it because I didn't personally get your approval and kiss your arse?


Or is it because your afraid of the outcome and you have NO control over it happening?


Xarin Xarid made it and updated with admin detection in it...


SPK did it....


Paraduck and C'relic Did it also....


Why am I different?
Yula_the_Mighty  1 star
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Lil-Blub posted:

Still I asked the mods and admins. No responses yet. Odd being over 12 hours old. I imagined they have viewed these forums at least once.


Anyhow, As said.. Everything that decal represents is against the code of conduct with Turbine from what I remember. So censoring my particular plugin is exactly that. Censorship.


It was not a problem up until I decided to have a new version released. Again, I am not doing all the work here.


Lifetank Xi's team was allowed to post releases and such up until the "decision" to remove admin detection was made.


Again that being said...


Is it a fact that since it was against the TOS/COC with Turbine and the Vnboards... that those posts including HISTORY of posts could be infact locked?


Mods/Admins please advise.



We do not have full coverage from the moderators. So it not surprising you have not gotten response, especially on a holiday weekend.


Your best bet is to contact the local moderator:

Kestrina

or the following admins

Kestrel

-Mithan-

Sheyla

-Southern-


You can use the modlist to find a member of the moderator team that is currently online for help. I wish I could answer your question. But I can not. Like you, I refer thorny issues like this to the moderators.
Lil-Blub  2 stars
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I got a "paused" respone in pm's from a mod...


I am also asking the public to a certain extent also.


See it's never been a problem before. Everyone was fine until someone got there panties in a bunch about this.
MT_Gouru  3 stars
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Not been a problem before? Admin alarms have been a contentious issue here for sometime, and with Turbines recent actions against Admin Alarms, and Frelorns clarification of 'attended play', then it becomes even more apparent of Turbines position on Admin Alarms.


Times change, deal with it.
Lil-Blub  2 stars
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Oh I am.


No worries there.
Yula_the_Mighty  1 star
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Based on what I've read here, when Turbine reopens I will spend some time talking to Frelorn to try to figure what Turbine's position currently is and what Turbine wants from ACVault.


It has always been IGN policy that the various vaults comply with any reasonable request or rule made by a game publisher. Hopefully, the moderation team is up to date because I certainly am not.
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Migy_AC  1 star
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To avoid confusion, you may want to dub your planned release Lifetank Fu. The Fu menaing - For Unnatended.


Though the sentiment also should bleed through.

 

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This situation is currently being handled by the Managers of this board. When they make their decision, we'll let you know. Please give them some time to make an appropriate decision.


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