I think el tank is a nice plugin and probably the best all around plugin however elgarls un willingness to keep it going sucks.


It's his code though so he can do what he wants..


I wonder if the fact that his plugin is useless against ninjas and rippers was the ice burg for him. He expresses great frustration against the ninjas and turbine.


LT has the situation under control but is falling apart in other ways..


I prefer El Tank all around but it lacks needed features for combat.


LT wins the combat part but the ui sucks..


ET nav and item tracking and ease of interface owns it...


Too bad elgarl after so long your going to let all that time and energy jusr perish..


If it were my code I would figure some way to keep it going.


That's me though not you...


Just Whistle ;-) if you change your mind....

This thread still lives and pisses me off even more.


Ok, Elgar wants to somehow punish Turbine by quitting? He quits supporting El Tank, and El Tank eventaully dies - and those who have come to rely on it.... quit, right? Therefore hurting Turbine?


Ok. Good for him. Bye bye. And bye bye to anyone who can't play without El Tank. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.


I hereby think we need to take over this thread and call on some OTHER dev to step up and begin work on an all inclusive plug-in that could do what El Tank did.


Alinco and Lifetank have good content and capability right now, and would likely requirte the least "extra" work to add some of the other buff other and fellowship parts.


So, let's just let ElGar quit, bye bye, bye bye, let his plug in die, bye bye, bye bye, and get in line and support someone or a group of someones willing to help fill that void by either creating a new plug-in, or expanding the capabilities of one or more of the existing ones. I know, it's the 11th hour, I know alot of work for a game in it's twilight. But hey, it's either that, or let Elgar win.


And frankly - I just don't want to. He did alot for this community, good or bad. And now he's determined to try and destroy it by removing what he thinks will be a crippling loss of a universally used Plug-in. We survived the loss of Sixth Sense. We survived the loss of Nerfus Buffus. We mourn the bitter loss of Bandit Sight. Well guess what, none of those no longer functioning stopped me from playing the game I still feel PRIVILEDGED to play. And I'll be damned if Elgar walking away does it either.

 

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Churi-ya: I know of a certain developer that has an ELTank type plugin in the works that is more... ACM friendly and not UCM friendly... as far as I know it is suppsed to supply a lot of what ELTank did without the UCM problems.


I don't know if/when it will be done, but I know someone is working on one currently (has been since the announcement at least).

el tank was ucm friendly?


It had a 5 minute timer on it. One that anyone with some know how could easily by pass but either way elgarl did his political part.

I'm not doubting that he tried to fix it. I'm saying it was designed UCM friendly and was still pretty UCM friendly at the end.


the difference is the other plugin won't (hopefully) be UCM friendly. At least.. that is th e intention.

"his political part"


That was his downfall towards the end. People could see through his politically correctness. I have no doubt that he assumed massive amounts of people would leave the game when he left, that's probably been his plan for awhile. Or at least when his plugin finally crashes.


As vision said, people could work around the 5 minute timer. Why even code a timer if you know people can work around it?


Hopefully the devs of lifetank and of this new plugin drak is talking about show us they have a pair and make them acm friendly, but not ucm friendly.

no one is going to leave because of elgarl...


c'mon now...

Lots left with me. We are quite happily playing EVE-Online .


But my intention was not to hurt anyone that playes AC, and certianly not to hurt Turbine. My whole goal is to NOT support Turbine anymore. If ELTank was required to play AC then it would be a different matter. It would be Turbines own fault and I'd expect back paid salary.


ELTank is not a pre-requisite to play AC, it just makes life easier.

But for some people that never learned to play with plugins, Tank, be it El or Life is a requirement for them to play.


But that is a personal issue.

 

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Some left with you elgarl that you know personally?


I meant in the broad scope of things..


No one in the big picture will leave because El Tank stops working.

If both ET and LT go away and no other alternative takes it's place then that is another story...


btw space mmropg's?


yuck.