Just to hold off on any suspense that may be taking place with some of you, I will address my future plans and maybe give some insight on behind the scenes of what brought this on.


I will make a more meaningful post when I stop working 15 hour days. Probably some time next week to be honest. I will be working on a way to revert the changes made and how to reverse some of them while keeping some of the needed changes at the same time.


There will likely be a poll to pop up with some general questions about what everyone feels would be best. I'm still going to make a small effort to keep it unfriendly to UCM'ing, but I'm not going to make the attempt to make every single work around impossible. I don't have the time nor willpower to police something like that, and I firmly believe there's already a company that's supposed to police it anyway. My intentions will be clear, and the EULA will be update to reflect such. I'm not sure that I will force the EULA in the plugin any longer, but I'm still going to leave that option open... but I will still refuse and and all support if I feel you are violating it, similar to how Gouru manages his plugins regarding the It!s and LTx.


So, I do apologize if this is causing anyone and extra inconvenience as of right now but if you're staying at the keyboard, your grief will me that much lesser than those who aren't.


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Yah it's interesting to see the response you get when everyone who used to supports you.. stops.


It's almost like a corporate hostile takeover. You screw with the public, the public screws you back.


I am glad to see the "next version" of lifetank being updated very soon. I look forward to un-restricted access to the plugin and the features that were intended from day one.


Have a nice day!

<< To clear up the question for someone whose doesnt see how this affects non-ucm players...>


And if the fellow leader isn't UCM'ing they could boot the UCM'er that died from the fellow.

 

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>> And if the fellow leader isn't UCM'ing they could boot the UCM'er that died from the fellow.


Sadly, they always are.


Awhile ago there was a plugin that, whenever a fellow died, sent a message like "Xyz, you died. If you are at the keyboard, reply with 'abc' to avoid being booted." Getting the UCM leaders to run something that does that would be best.

 

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If Lifetank is banning other programs from being used, than why doesn't all the other developers ban lifetank from being used with their programs? Thats what I would do if i was a developer.

because banning any plugin from use is pathetic.

 

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Could everyone just get over the pissyness and just appreciate the Lifetank Devs being responsive to our inputs?


You don't like Lifetank, don't use it.


You don't like UCMers and find one? Report him.


Quit tearing Crelic and Para's heads off. Wihtout lifetank there'd be a hell of alot more people sitting there with their eyes falling out of the skulls from boredom hitting "end" or "backspace" over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. And saying to hell with this, and quit.


Alot, I repeat ALOT of people use this for ACM as well.


Lighten up.


You're probably the same people that see a posted speed limit and NEVER, EVER EVER, not even by one mile per hour, NOT EVER, go over it. I mean, that's breaking the RULES! Can't have that. NOT EVER!


RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

 

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"It's almost like a corporate hostile takeover. You screw with the public, the public screws you back. "


Ummm, I'm not sure what you're saying here.


How is the public screwing the Lifetank developers back? Refusing to use the software that those developers spent long hours on and released to the public for free? Demanding more and more from the developers and never being satisified with what they had been given for free?


What makes people think they are somehow 'entitled' to use another persons work, and entitled to bitch and moan about it if it doesn't do every little thing 'they' want. Plugin developers have NO responsibility to the vast legions of leeches out there.


If you don't like what C'relic or I release for free to the public, or don't like the restrictions placed on it, you are free to go create or commission the creation of your own. C# is free, there are lots of good books on programming, the decal interfaces are published and supported.


If you are too busy or too lazy or too stupid to learn how to do it yourself, then tough cookies. Shut up and take what you're given for free. It's not like any of the Plugin developers are making any real money for their work. Basically the only reward they have is their personal pride and occasional praise from the community.


Yet it feels like most of the community believes they have a 'right' to other peoples work, that thanks or appreciation is not required and that they have the right to make demands on the developers.


I dislike Tank programs, but I have nothing but respect for those Developers that actually step up and do something instead of just bitch about it on the boards.

gouru ftw

 

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"It's almost like a corporate hostile takeover. You screw with the public, the public screws you back. "


Ummm, I'm not sure what you're saying here.


How is the public screwing the Lifetank developers back? Refusing to use the software that those developers spent long hours on and released to the public for free? Demanding more and more from the developers and never being satisified with what they had been given for free?


What makes people think they are somehow 'entitled' to use another persons work, and entitled to bitch and moan about it if it doesn't do every little thing 'they' want. Plugin developers have NO responsibility to the vast legions of leeches out there.


If you don't like what C'relic or I release for free to the public, or don't like the restrictions placed on it, you are free to go create or commission the creation of your own. C# is free, there are lots of good books on programming, the decal interfaces are published and supported.


If you are too busy or too lazy or too stupid to learn how to do it yourself, then tough cookies. Shut up and take what you're given for free. It's not like any of the Plugin developers are making any real money for their work. Basically the only reward they have is their personal pride and occasional praise from the community.


Yet it feels like most of the community believes they have a 'right' to other peoples work, that thanks or appreciation is not required and that they have the right to make demands on the developers.


I dislike Tank programs, but I have nothing but respect for those Developers that actually step up and do something instead of just bitch about it on the boards.


And C'relic didn't MAKE anything. He only put his own features into it and ported it. Lifetank X was a much better project than Lifetank XI. He is just turning it into something it was'nt originally intended to be. That's a fact. Warbot actually is better than this plugin for 10X the reasons. And it's not written in VB6.


Lifetank 1, and 2 and X was intended as UCM plugin. C'relic and Paraduck took that away. Yes, your right... it is the right of the author to do as he wishes with his own plugin. It's just irony that all previous versions to XI was UCM based.


Nuff said there.


Yes anyone can get a book out and program. Yes anyone can get the source code before it was ported to work with the new decal. In the end, Lifetank Xi has tons of errors and is very slow to respond, and could use some serious clean up work and porting to another laguage.


I personally think it sucks and I choose NOT to use it. That's opinion and choice.


However, that being said, I want to say Warbot is just better in most situations for UCM.


Enjoy for those who didn't know. For those that did, I am sorry we are wasting our time and energy on supporting this plug in. He's RIGHT, we should create a publicly owned version of Lifetank. Then all these arguments will go away! We would also be able to PM people who were looking for a less restricted version of Lifetank.


Who wants to start it? PM me. We can make it happen.

I just love how often people claim that some particular piece of software that doesn't work is better than a piece of software that does.


If working is not a requirement, then I can create the best AC macro ever seen.


However, there is a lot of noise about plugins that might exist someday, but until the developers actually accomplish delivering a working program out the door, all it is is a meaningless production of hot air.