**Log On Unfriendly Detect and Improvements re-enabled on all server


What are the improvements? Thanks

Hey, is there anyway we can enable the irc commands, and takecontrol commands of the macros? Even when your UCM checked, the admin still asks you to jump ingame, you cannot do this from irc, so is it possible to enable those commands again?

Thanks!

 

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Thanks for making the changes. They seem to be a pretty good compromise.

I was thinking about how half the time I have lifetank turned ON but in a PAUSED state, so that I can manually run around and fight, but lifetank keeps track of the DoT and xp/hour, etc.

Is it possible to disable only *partial* functionality if the macro detects something like skunkworks running, or an authorization failure? Specifically, disable the section of code that targets and kills things, instead of the entire plugin. That way your plugin can still be used by people who are using other plugins that may or even may not be doing something you approve of, but at the same time, prevent your plugin from being used as a UCM platform.

IRC remote control commands will more than likely never be added back in. It's unnecessary if you're using the plugin directly and if I remember correctly, it could jump for you.


Basically the unfriendly detection improvements were that it will still detect and play a sound alert even when the plugin is not turned on (enabled in Decal, but stopped or paused in this case). It will also log out even while not running or paused. Before I don't think it would log if it was paused or stopped.


Keeping track of xp/hour while paused would probably be fairly difficult given the way the plugin is designed. It calculates your incoming XP/Hour and totals based on the time the plugin has been running. When you hit pause, the timers stop, and the calculations stop too since the time isn't moving.


I cannot disable parts of the plugin based on "unfriendly" plugin detection, nor can I detect what scripts Skunkworks currently has loaded, nor can I tell what actions that script is doing. In this case, it's either the whole plugin or not at all.


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When spk was making ltx he used a lot of the code from skunkworks to help him build ltx. He gave credit to the author of skunkworks for helping him during the development stages. Now you can't use ltx if skunkworks is active. That just doesn't seem right to me.


Quote from the readme that was in the last source that spk released to the public.


A special thank goes to the Decal dev team for their quality work

and support on Decal through all these years, Turbine for such a

fantastic game, and all my friends at Darkside-Online. I'd also like

to thank the author of SkunkWorks for releasing his source code, which

has proven to be a valuable help on several occasions throughout the

development of lifetank. Finally, a particular thank you to Sweet Mary

who made LT what it is today!


- Spk

 

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That's nice and all I guess, but I've never used Skunkworks to script, nor have I even seen the source of Skunkworks either.


I mean, he used Skunkworks to help build Lifetank... Skunkworks wasn't being used to help Lifetank run while in-game.


Either way, my choice wasn't influenced by what's happened in the past by/to the previous developers. Right now I feel it's too much of a possibility for something in SW to be used to UCM and probably keep someone IG for days on end.


I guess I can understand where you're coming from, but don't really understand how it would apply to me now. Those guys have long quit AC and developing the plugin and the only help I've had so far is from Para and Replex and we've always given proper credit to everyone before us. So I'm temporarily disabling Lifetank due to Skunkworks because it can be abused... is that such a bad thing?


It may be dropped sometime in the future, but right now I still think it needs to stick for awhile.


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Lets look at it from the standpoint of a student writing a term paper. Someone created the outline, formed the main arguement or statement, and made the summary. Then another person comes along and rephrases some of the sentences and changes the outline a little. Does that still constitute plagerism and give no rights to the original author? Not only are you not giving skunkworks credit you are saying that skunkworks shouldn't be associated with ltx at all.


Edit - sorry that should of said given credit to the original sources not author.

 

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If he is saying it may be lifted later (the ban on SW) than why don't we just quit talking about it. It is better that he is saying for now it will be banned, but later it may be lifted other than saying the ban will never be lifted. My 2 cents.

you can't "ban" your original sources, you still have to give them credit.

 

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