Thanks

Thank you Decal Devs!

 

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I haven't seen anyone else mention this, but is it a known issue that something changed in the way decal sends item names? It seems that the material type is no longer being sent in the same way it used to be (ie, Ivory Nekode now shows up only as Nekode, Leather Salvaged (100) shows up as Salvaged (100) ). I'm currently using 2.9.6.0/2.9.6.1 . Can't get 2.9.6.5 to work on any of the machines here so not sure if it's working in the newer version correctly or not.

Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.1

type, enabled, name, version, clsid
Plugins, 1, Mob Tracker, 1.4.0.0, {0C212D60-8708-4043-A09B-E6C0387A0A8D}
Plugins, 1, AC Tool Companion, 5.4.0.64, {12132875-071F-4800-86C1-142F128DBE48}
Plugins, 0, Spells To File, 1.0.0.0, {1A2620FD-1348-4C1A-8BBA-D31E13562F29}
Plugins, 1, AgentZ, 1.1.0.1, {359E547B-5302-4134-80F2-3BE5C31EC828}
Plugins, 1, GoArrow, 1.2.0.1, {46BBF551-8578-4A59-B2FB-B5D9F4C719FA}
Plugins, 1, DCS, 2.0.0.3, {5522F031-4D14-4BC1-A6F1-09A1FB36F90E}
Plugins, 1, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.1, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Plugins, 0, Make It!, 5.9.7.0, {70DD2CC6-E638-4F43-9F15-C84A0FC7DC76}
Plugins, 0, Tings, 1.0.0.265, {864F2945-A564-4C8D-A36F-0CAF267F7612}
Plugins, 1, MiniMap, 1.1.0.264, {92C09018-E815-4C22-987B-8E553154146E}
Plugins, 0, SSSort, 2.2.0.0, {B9765335-51EC-4C24-AE39-D6E1BA6AE4AD}
Plugins, 1, Quest Timer, 2.4.0.2, {BB51962C-2EEE-4E67-A032-EEC1F11E66C8}
Plugins, 1, Target Info, 3.1.0.1, {BF8C22F4-B172-4922-B3D4-26E6985E87AC}
Plugins, 1, Radar Add-on, 1.2.0.53, {CA23F8D7-7E71-423A-A928-BC5CDD8FBD96}
Plugins, 1, Virindi Follower, 0.0.0.4, {F99EC4CF-2C9B-4A8A-84A5-BAA7222F8A07}
Network Filters, 1, ACDC Core Filter, 7.2.2.0, {2DB1B641-4039-4D69-831A-79915EC266CE}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.1, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.1, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.1, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.1, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.1, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.1, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.1, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.1, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.1, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.1, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.1, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.1, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.1, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.1, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.1, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.1, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.1, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.1, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.6.1, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.6.1, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.1, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.6.1, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.6.1, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)

[Protected Storage Service] : Automatic

Decal Settings
[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)
[Portal Path] : C:\Program Files\Turbine\Asheron's Call - Throne of Destiny\
[Launcher App] : ACDCClient.exe
[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com
[memlocs.xml] : 26816 bytes, Version 0.0.11.4069
[messages.xml] : 54652 bytes, Version 2011.02.25.0
[Video Memory] : 253857280

D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)
[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)
[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)
[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)
[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)
[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)
[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)
[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)
[d3dx9_31.dll] : Installed (9.15.779.0)
[d3dx9_32.dll] : Installed (9.16.843.0)
[d3dx9_33.dll] : Installed (9.18.904.15)
[d3dx9_34.dll] : Installed (9.19.949.46)
[d3dx9_35.dll] : Installed (9.19.949.1104)
[d3dx9_36.dll] : Installed (9.19.949.2111)
[d3dx9_37.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_38.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_39.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_40.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_41.dll] : Installed (9.26.952.2844)
[d3dx9_42.dll] : Installed (9.27.952.3001)
[d3dx9_43.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_44.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_45.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_46.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_47.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_48.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_49.dll] : Not Installed


---Support Libraries ---
Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks
[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed
[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 1)
[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed
[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 2)
[v3.0] (3.0) : Installed (Service Pack 2)
[v3.5] (3.5) : Installed (Service Pack 1)
[v4] (4.0) : Installed (Version: 4.0.30319)

C++ Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.98.2)
[atl70.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcr70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcp70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[atl71.dll] : Not Installed
[atl80.dll] : Not Installed
[atl90.dll] : Not Installed
[atl100.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)
[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.100.1052.0)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.20.9876.0)
[msxml5.dll] : Not Installed
[msxml6.dll] : Installed (6.20.1103.0)


---Video Device Information---
[Device] : NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS
[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1
[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0400&SUBSYS_C7613842&REV_A1
[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{33E40E73-2D92-45B8-AB5D-F89B590A089B}\0000
[Manufacturer] : NVIDIA
[ChipType] : GeForce 8600 GTS
[DACType] : Integrated RAMDAC
[Revision] :
[MemoryLocalised] : 256.0 MB
[MemoryEnglish] : 256.0 MB
[DisplayLocalised] : 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[DisplayEnglish] : 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[DisplayWidth] : 1920
[DisplayHeight] : 1080
[DisplayBpp] : 32
[RefreshRate] : 60
[MonitorName] : Plug and Play Monitor
[MonitorMaxRes] : 1600,1200
[DriverName] : nv4_disp.dll
[DriverVersion] : 6.14.0012.8558
[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail
[DriverLangEnglish] : English
[DriverLangLocal] : English
[DriverDateEng] : 10/7/2011 23:50:00
[DriverDateLocal] : 10/7/2011 23:50:00
[DriverSize] : 4226688
[MiniVdd] : nv4_mini.sys
[MiniVddDateEng] : 10/7/2011 23:50:00
[MiniVddDateLocal] : 10/7/2011 23:50:00
[MiniVddSize] : 12791488
[Vdd] : n/a
[RenderWindow] : Yes
[Beta] : No
[Debug] : No
[Signed] : No
[SignValid] : No
[Identifier] : {D7B71E3E-4740-11CF-9C7A-6DE700C2CB35}
[DDIVer] : 9
[DDIVerEng] : 9 (or higher)
[DDIVerLocal] : 9 (or higher)
[iAdapter] : 0
[VendorID] : 0x10DE
[DeviceID] : 0x0400
[SubSystemID] : 0xC7613842
[RevisionID] : 0x00A1
[WHQL Level] : 0
[NoHardware] : 0
[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes
[3DAccelExists] : Yes
[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes
[AGP Enabled] : Yes
[AGPExists] : Yes
[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

 

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I also noticed that the items tab in vtank shows shortened names for my weapons. Not sure if this was by design, apparently not.

 

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They changed how item names are sent by the game so that the material name is not included in the name string.

 

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Is it yet known if Decal will ever 'reinsert' the material name back into the name string as it once was, or should we begin adjusting scripts to work around this?

I use ACTools (I know I know) to run a tinker/salvage/craft bot. And given the fact that the developers long ago quit there's little chance of it ever being updated even if Decal makes that information available in a new way. (/e dreads the thought of relearning how to actually code in a real language.)

EDIT: Just to be clear, I am very thankful for all the work done by all the Decal devs past and present, and am acutely aware that it's not your responsibility to maintain compatibility to deprecated plugins. (But I can always dream!)

 

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Decal will not be changed to give you a combined name when you ask for the name. It is possible there could be a property that gives you the combined name, but it probably won't happen.

Plugins should be adjusted to deal with the new behavior.

 

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Check the turbine forums, Severlin said he fixed the bug for the next patch. Turbine's piss-poor QA strikes again. I imagine the material will be sent with the name (in the new order, I would assume, rather than the old one) after the next patch.

Sucks that a lot of plugins won't work for a month, but that's what Turbine gets when they don't actually TEST anything.

I don't go to the Turbine forums. They're too filled with suck-ups, "omg decal is satan", and "omg everything should be a quest and everything should have an annoying timer" people.

 

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Upon checking Severlin's post on VN, I should probably point out that the 'fix' is not going to change how Decal works currently; I can't see any reason why the material would be back in the name next patch.

Items simply don't include the material in the name any more. The client makes it look like they do by adding it whenever it's displayed- it seems Turbine missed a couple of places where that needs to happen, but fixed it for the next patch.

There's a couple of other minor issues as well: Take the clothing formerly known as 'Long Leather Gloves': They're now 'Long Gloves' (note the double space). Probably because the search & replace they used to remove material names didn't take into account the possibility of the material name being in the middle.

Strictly speaking, this change has not 'broken' anything in Decal, it's just that names for things are different. No plugin should realistically care whether something's called 'Sword' instead of 'Steel Sword' or whatever; everything else is unchanged. The only plugins that would break are ones that actually check the name to find out what material an item is, but since they get told about the material separately at the same time as the name (and have done for a while), there's never been a reason to do this.