While I have no doubt that it's possible to properly configure Lifetank to work *somewhat*, VTank already does everything (well, virtually everything) that Lifetank did, and does it much faster and more efficiently. I have used them side by side. VTank is faster, has more features, and is actually fully-functional.

As for identifying items, Mag-Tools already does that pretty efficiently when combined with Virindi's Classic Looter, and again, they are way, way faster than LT ever was.

I guess I just don't understand the drive to kludge something up to replace a perfectly functional pair of plugins. Like I said, I applaud your effort, and we need all the Decal developers we can get, but I just don't understand, and that's why I posted here.

KhaanVrenn +1

Vtank won't buff others. I've requested it for VTank and Joe even remember your response was that it was not necessary. As someone who levels new characters all the time without the ability to buff, it is invaluable. I do not mind that it is not in Vtank as I can and do use LTx side by side with it and it does not cause any problems for me. Either way, that is just one point. People play with different needs and goals in mind. As great as Vtank is, it will never be "perfect" for every situation or play style. Options are always good.

I am not saying you were bagging on him, just giving more support for why someone might actually care to update something others may consider a waste of time.

I look forward to his changes and will use them. I would do it if I could, but I cannot. Same thing with Vtank though, there are changes there that would benefit my playstyle greatly that are of no need to others and thusly will probably never be implemented.

Oh, and on your list of plugins, I use Logwiz and Quest Timer every day without any issues at all. It might be nice to have updates there, but they are both at least functional presently.

Why people spend their unpaid free time on certain things, and why others judge that time spent, will both remain unanswered mysteries long after we are all gone, and matter less. If you re-read my original post, you'll see I at least made a weak attempt to bypass LTx vs VT politics, but we all know that's unavoidable. Yes, VT is quicker and better, she has spent how many thousands of hours over the last 4 years that LTx hasn't had a single byte of code changed? It should be better... lol!

I'm not here to argue efficiency or duplicate functionality. I just want to have some fun. I have been here since beta, so color me old school. One thing that comes with age, beside just pure drop dead sexiness, is a fondness for things labeled 'classic'. Why people would waste their time restoring a '69 Chevy Camaro will always mystify the younger hipsters who drool over a brand new showroom make and model - until they themselves start to grow older. My first son was 9 yrs old when AC was in beta, and for about 6 years he trolled the land of Dereth before moving on to more important things: women. ; ) He's now 23. A man. I'm raising a second set of kids, my next oldest boy is 6. Like his bigger brother, he is extremely interested in AC, and is already running toons around safe areas.

Again, I'm sorry, but if I spend my time on anything AC related, it's going to be something that I currently use. Here's a list of every plugin I use, and they all still function well enough that I don't need to lose sleep.

MiniMap and Radar Add-on
MakeIt!
FindIt!
SortIt!
Mule TradeIt!
DCS
SkunkVision
Fortune Hunter
LifetankX 11.9.9
Mob Tracker

KhaanVrenn,
The answer to the unanswered mysteries is.......Insanity..
"Everybody to their own taste!" said the old lady who kissed the cow.

Rest of yah,

Pretty much plugin authors write code that helps themselves in game. Its part of the fun
to see something they need and then tweak some code so they can use it. Course I don't run a portal bot so I must
be proof of the unanswered mystery.

Duplicity can be frown on in some situations but there is that 'ellow school bus rule' which is part of disaster planning.
What if (god forbid) vtank went bye bye?

I would be interested in hearing about any plugin functionality that is no longer available.
Trade bot I keep hearing is broke but last I heard it is functional although limited a bit by amount of items.

Heh. To quote myself, from the very first post of the VTank release thread, 2008:





For the health of the game, it is important that there be options. Attempting to win people over from LTX has driven me to add many features over the years. Competition is good for everyone.

Since that time, I am proud of what I have added that LTX does not have...dual wield, autoselect of best spell level, navigation that works well even when looting, grenades, cast on strike debuffs, lenses, extensible monster rules, buffing from foods and gems, mana/stamina kit use, healer's heart support, casting stein type item use, a strong crafting engine, void magic, streak on low health, pea splitting, customizable nav waypoints, moving around corners when following a player, smallest turn based target selection when targets are nearby, and more. I only plan to keep adding features.

Hopefully in the end I can get you to choose my plugin

 

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I'm not sure where you got the idea that I don't think VTank should have a "buff buddy" feature, but I've actually bugged VI about this on quite a few occasions over the past couple of years. I think that feature would be invaluable, especially to my Item-only archer.

Addressing the larger picture, I have no problem with the OP working on LT. Any implication that I do is mistaken. There are just a few plugins that I wish someone (hint, hint) would put a bit of time into updating for the modern AC era.

Again, I applaud the OP's effort.

Well, there's not going to be a competition from me...

First off, the Visual Basic 6 aspect will prevent -anyone- from doing anything serious to LTx. If someone was going to be serious, they'd re-write it with today's modern language. VI did that already, and there's VTank.

Secondly, I had no intentions (not sure I even have the capability!) of adding any significant features that would be attractive enough to overcome the slowness of the bloatware it has become. Again, if you wanted to ADD things to it, in order to start attracting users, you'd really just start from scratch.

All I wanted to do was to fix some of the things that are blatantly in-your-face wrong, every time you load the plugin, even though it still does an adequate job of being a 'tank' and killing/looting stuffs.

Just want to make sure, for the benefit of anyone who stumbles upon this thread, I am NOT taking over 'development' of LTx, I simply intend to update it as much as possible to correctly interact with today's patches. That's it. Not sure I would ever even release those changes, it kind of depends on how much I can get done. I'm right now stuck on trying to figure out how information is exchanged between the engine and Decal, so I haven't made any changes in 2 days now, and my brain is suffering from code migraines.

What we really need is for Digero to come back and fix his plugins

Logwiz still works atm. It would be nice to have it tweaked to ensure future compatibility, perhaps even converted over to use Virindi's VVS for it's displayed Window but it doesn't have a huge performance hit like certain other plug-ins.

 

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