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levgre posted:
Why even include 16-18 in that range? Teenagers often don't need or even want jobs. And many college students forgo working also, or work only during the summer.
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Annanova
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Gibbon-Raver - Have you been reading the Last Chronicles (Thomas Covenant) at all?
If so, any thoughts?
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Sith_Mauler posted:
_Gimpzilla_ posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
in 2008 i was making $25 per hour and anything over 8 hours a day was OT regardless if I had 40 hours in or not.
I make 10.50 a hour now.
there is your hope and change.
Clearly you were overpaid for whatever you were doing. The market is correcting itself. You're lucky that us 1%'ers give you a job at all.
that was when I was a windfarm supervisor, and at the time I scored that job my skill set was in high demand because people where spending money and companies needed techs to keep their production facilities and product lines running smoothly, not so much anymore with all the factories closing up shop and laying off tens of thousands of electrical and mechanical technicians.
intel flew me out to portland on an all expense paid 3 day interview(no offer)
semiens did the same flew me to sand diego(job offered but refused due to a starting salary of only 60k a year in San Diego)
lockheed,L-3, and a few other defense companies courted me also.
Saying you were "courted" for jobs would normally insinuate that you were in demand, and that they would offer you a competitive salary...
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Annanova posted:
Gibbon-Raver - Have you been reading the Last Chronicles (Thomas Covenant) at all?
If so, any thoughts?
While the first 2 in the series were palatable, the latest was a horrible mess of useless repetition and filler. The book should have been 100 pages shorter and some of the lore did not conform historically. I simply could not trudge all the way through the morass and gave up entirely about 2/3rds of the way through. I was saddened that such a great series came to this. Read some of the reviews on Amazon.
If you have not read the Gap series, I would recommend that, it is pretty good imho.
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Annanova
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I've read everything Donaldson (not his Reed Stephens detective novels though).
Yeah, I pretty much agree with you about the most recent book - it was a real struggle to finish although I did after a second try, a year after it came out.
It WAS SO SLOW.. although I must say it picked up considerably right about where you left off - 2/3 of the way through.
I've never read conversations so drawn out (I think the first 150 pages of the book pretty much took place in the exact same spot - I doubt any character took a single step).
It was hard, and the payoff from finishing it was slim if any. Maybe the fact that I can pick up the last one next year and not be completely WTF happened up until now.
Loved the Gap, loved Mordant's Need. They should make a movie or two from those.
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I skew the poll, along with most of the people that I took classes with...I'm 24 and have never worked a "real" job (to be fair, I couldn't drive until I was 18, and for basically 3 of the 5 years I was in school I couldn't drive then either, and public transit is out of the question in this area).
needs to be 23-30 year olds...90% of the people under 20 don't work a regular job, and probably 50% or better don't even work at all.
I think most of the job problems comes from companies hiring overseas...I don't blame the President, but I also don't plan to vote for him (didn't the first time either). It's congress' inability to do ANYTHING that's more of a problem than the president.
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Annanova posted:
I've read everything Donaldson (not his Reed Stephens detective novels though).
Yeah, I pretty much agree with you about the most recent book - it was a real struggle to finish although I did after a second try, a year after it came out.
It WAS SO SLOW.. although I must say it picked up considerably right about where you left off - 2/3 of the way through.
I've never read conversations so drawn out (I think the first 150 pages of the book pretty much took place in the exact same spot - I doubt any character took a single step).
It was hard, and the payoff from finishing it was slim if any. Maybe the fact that I can pick up the last one next year and not be completely WTF happened up until now.
Loved the Gap, loved Mordant's Need. They should make a movie or two from those.
Same here, I have read all but his detective novels. I probably have read the first 2 Thomas Covenant series 6 times each. You are the 2nd person who commented that the end did pick up a bit and was not bad, so I may need pick up another copy and finish it, if nothing else to at least complete the series.
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ITT, Combat proves once and for all that he can't read past the sound bite of his own copypasta.
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Annanova posted:
_Gimpzilla_ posted:
Computer Scientists and Computer Engineers are in demand, but Americans are so dumb we have to bring in people from India and China and get them visas.
WRONG. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG.
It is not "Americans are so dumb".
American COMPANIES like the fact that you can get these people to do the job for 20% or less than an American living in this country gets paid.
THAT'S why the Indian companies are getting their business. THAT'S what's fueling the current job crisis, NOT congress or the President(to the degree that they're being demonized over it).
It is corporate greed pure and simple. Pay less and less and less.
And let me tell you, these people are doing a half-assed job at it, and eventually American Corporations are going to wake up and see you get what you pay for. I've seen it first-hand, I'm living it.
My old company's entire IT was outsourced (development to two Indian companies, Infrastructure and support to an American company I shall not name). I was fortunate enough to get a job with that company, and am still doing the same job for the same "old" company, but working for the outsource-ee.
The rank and file for the "old" company rues the day that decision was made. They're saving money but the service is nothing what it was (for those functions shipped overseas), the work is crap. THE higher you go the less you see it, you're blinded by the savings.
But those who have to deal with it day to day on both sides are pulling their hair out.
Pure and simple, American Corporate greed is what will destroy this country.
I'm not talking about outsourced IT monkeys. I'm talking about skilled programmers. Most large software firms have to hire abroad, get them visas, and bring them to America (not outsourcing) paying them 6 figures. We can't find enough qualified Americans able to code even something trivial. This country is failing to teach children math and science and it shows in the job market.
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Annanova
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The company I worked for had lots of skilled programmers.
Truly, I'm not just saying that, these people were the best at what they do and had been working with these particular applications for 10, 20+ years. LOTS of experience.
Once they outsourced those jobs to three Indian companies, we have seen defects rise 200%, delivery dates constantly being missed, continual off-cycle production patches and deployments month after month.. they're not going to be happy until they break this application (which is the single most important in this company - a top 10 international insurer).
They forced all of the business knowledge out of the door after a laughably short knowledge transfer period (one month?) and now more things are broke than working.
They break it and then you (I) get the inevitable memo, "Please investigate and do the needful".
"Do the needful" is Indian for "we break it, you fix it".
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