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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
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I have re-used essays and reports for various classes, just tailored the content to fit my needs.

For example, I authored a article that was published in navy times and some other navy safety magazines, that I am turning in as a paper for advanced composition.

I wrote the article its mine so plagiarism isnt a issue, just to cover my ass I will cite my self as the source.

 

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purplehugmonkey  2 stars
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For us I guess after looking it up, it's not considered plagiarism, it's considered academic dishonesty because you're submitting it as if it is for the assignment from a current teacher and this gives you an advantage over others in the same class. It still falls under the cheating umbrella of things that will get you an F in the class though for us.

 

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Hawkson  4 stars
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I can't imagine the issue. Not that I ever had the opportunity to use the same paper for more than one class.


But if it's a different class, different professor, but somehow the paper subjects line up...what's the problem? I'm not plagiarizing, or stealing it. I'm working more efficiently.

 

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mightbe  3 stars
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if the original eassy was never submitted, then yea it is wrong and you wont get in trouble


if the original eassy was submitted in the same class you are taking and you get caught, get ready to see the dean


if you had an eassy or project for one class and used it for another class and you get caught, get ready to see the dean


there are very few things that are worse then academic disiplain on your transcripts/ if you want to go to grad school and have this on your transcript, pretty much kiss that dream goodbye


dont be lazy, re-write a new eassy. Eassys are so easy to write....when i was in school people complained about 10 page eassys. wippy do dah. there not even 10 pages since 99% of teachers require double space

 

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Arc_DT  2 stars
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purplehugmonkey posted:

For us I guess after looking it up, it's not considered plagiarism, it's considered academic dishonesty


Bingo! Beat me to it. It's not plagiarism. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's kosher to do this. It won't get you blacklisted, but it could get you a failing grade for the class.

Talk to the professor. Most are cool and even complimentary about reusing prior works. Don't take the chance that they aren't.

 

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Kanga_Roo  2 stars
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If you tell the prof what you are doing their shouldn't be a problem. I'd probably review it and improve a little before re-submitting but that's just me. Whatever the two of you work out.

 

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Jezza_Belle  4 stars
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Class policy is this.

I expect honesty. I expect that you will neither do work for others nor use work done by others. Cheating and/or plagiarizing will not be tolerated. Plagiarizing is cheating, as is copying answers on a test, glancing at nearby test papers, swapping papers, buying papers, using ideas from other sources without proper documentation, writing papers for others, or having them written for you.

The school policy is identical to the class policy. There is nothing else listed about "academic dishonesty".

 

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Kanga_Roo  2 stars
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Jezza_Belle posted:

Class policy is this.

I expect honesty. I expect that you will neither do work for others nor use work done by others. Cheating and/or plagiarizing will not be tolerated. Plagiarizing is cheating, as is copying answers on a test, glancing at nearby test papers, swapping papers, buying papers, using ideas from other sources without proper documentation, writing papers for others, or having them written for you.

The school policy is identical to the class policy. There is nothing else listed about "academic dishonesty".



It seems you are talking policy, not ethics. It is possible to follow policy and remain unethical. Joe Paterno comes to mind.

 

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purplehugmonkey  2 stars
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Registered: 2005-5-16 18:42:03
I don't think it's unethical. If it's not in the policy for your school, I wouldn't worry about it.

You could always just argue that you didn't think it would be against the rules if they called you on it, since the policy doesn't say anything about reusing work. Ours just happens to specifically mention and forbid it.

 

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