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After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist [Locked] |
deadcactus  Posts: 669
Registered: 2001-12-27 09:17:08
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1/1/00 12:01am
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After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist |
You're an unskilled laborer making a good wage with sufficient hours. You have 5 guys behind you who would gladly do your job without complaining. Maybe I need buy a new Scrabble set, but I seem to be out of QQs...
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Arc_DT  Title: Mithan said I am smart
Posts: 363
Registered: 2002-5-28 08:25:51
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1/1/00 12:01am
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After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist |
Aerlinthian posted:
Arc_DT posted:
Not the union, but we've been lied into believing that protectionism isn't even an option. There's *something* we can and should do about this.
You already know (or should remember) my position on this which I have outlined numerous times before. So without rehashing all that, I suggest to anyone who has an iota of a brain to dig themselves up out of the labor pool and go to where the going is good. Things aren't going to be getting any better in this country for a long time to come for labor unless there is an dramatic upheaval/paradigm shift.
And unfortunately too many dummies think the answer is ever increasing minimum wage or unions or some other internal populist drivel. 
I don't know you well enough to know your position of protectionism, and I *do* know you well enough to know that you sometimes take surprising and unpredictable positions. So I'm afraid that you're going to need to reiterate your position if you want it to be part of this conversation.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist |
Arc_DT posted:
So I'm afraid that you're going to need to reiterate your position if you want it to be part of this conversation.
You'll remember the conversations we have had before. I spoke several times about my thoughts for developing a largely non political, points based, auto triggering tariff system. I also mentioned that we need a massive overhaul of domestic job killing regulations. Basically we have the following two tiers of trade reversed.
We suffer hyper regulation (corporatism) on the domestic tier and free trade against predatory controlled economies on the international tier. That is by and large backwards to how it needs to be for us to correct our woes. "Free" international trade is a laudable goal but it is a fairy tale. The looming threat of a [largely] non political points based, auto triggering tariff system would provide a quiet & consistent pressure on international trade partners to avoid some of their more egregious assaults against us.
The problem with implementing any tariff system is that you have to do it in good times, not bad times when there is already high animosity and faltering systems. So unfortunately we have a catch 22.
We are just going to have to suffer our way out of this giant hole. Or for people who think in long terms and have the capacity, they will get out to greener pastures. I'm already working on my own game plan in this regard.
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Ah-Schoo  Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness
Posts: 3,034
Registered: 2000-8-11 09:05:29
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After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist |
Aerlinthian posted:
Arc_DT posted:
So I'm afraid that you're going to need to reiterate your position if you want it to be part of this conversation.
I think so much of myself that it's painful for others. <rhetoric snipped.>
Accuracy is important.
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JD_HOGG Posts: 2,846
Registered: 2008-3-18 08:04:21
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1/1/00 12:01am
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After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist |
Sith_Mauler posted:
Goltore posted:
Unless you're in BFE and its the only kitchen in town....go work somewhere else? If you are as good as you say you are that shouldn't be a problem.
my issue I live in bfe and it pays $13.50 a hour and a free meal. It also has a flexible schedule that fits around my class schedule.
plus I enjoy bbq'ing and smoking meat thats fun for me
I just hate the douche bag gm.
You hate him because he makes you work. Why don't you start your own BBQ joint and then you can be the douche bag GM and smoke meat.
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Tipztoe Posts: 1,775
Registered: 2004-3-1 17:53:43
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1/1/00 12:01am
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After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist |
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have you considered moving to a place that has better industry?
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1/1/00 12:01am
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After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist |
Chogram posted:
You would do well in a union.
You're lazy, constantly complain, and think the world owes you something.
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JD_HOGG Posts: 2,846
Registered: 2008-3-18 08:04:21
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1/1/00 12:01am
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After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist |
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ACF is slipping. This thread should be entirely about smoking meat by now.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist |
Aerlinthian posted:
I suggest to anyone who has an iota of a brain to dig themselves up out of the labor pool and go to where the going is good. Things aren't going to be getting any better in this country for a long time to come for labor unless there is an dramatic upheaval/paradigm shift.
Thats an excellent justification for illegal immigration. Free market labor FTW!
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myxomatosis8 Title: amateur zookeeper
Posts: 800
Registered: 2001-7-14 23:45:21
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1/1/00 12:01am
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After being employed in a "free will" state, I understand why unions exist |
JD_HOGG posted:
ACF is slipping. This thread should be entirely about smoking meat by now.
The meat is definitely green, that's disgusting.
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