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Ah-Schoo  Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness
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Correlation is causation, that's all you need to know.
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JD_HOGG Posts: 2,846
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NeoKarnak posted:
Lots of stupid replies, but not surprising.
It's not stupidity, it's ignorance. If no member of your family has ever proven to you that graduating from school opens many, many more opportunities in your life to choose a career, you are less likely to strive for it. Many kids see their parents in action and say "well, we are alive and we eat, so my parents must be doing well." They don't realize that their family is at the poverty line and has no chance to improve due to no career skills that are deemed valuable.
It has ZERO to do with mental laziness. ZERO. They have never been shown what it takes to get out of their multi-generational situation. You can try to TELL them, but they will strive to the examples that surround them. It is the reason rich kids usually do well in school. They are surrounded by examples of what schooling can do for you.
I can tell you how I made it out of poverty. I went from fist fighting my siblings for a chicken neck to what you would call the 1%. I'm sure you've got quite a tale too. How did you get out of poverty? Or maybe you are one of those people born lucky into a cozy middle class or better home, and despite your winning the sperm lottery, you didn't improve yourself to the best of your ability - you could have been so much more but you squandered your opportunity on beer bongs and margarita parties. Now you feel guilty about that so you dream up a convoluted understanding of poverty.
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Brother_Tempus  Title: Patriot
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if memory serves correctly, Obama came from a single parent home that wad nit all that affluent and became President
just saying
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Ah-Schoo Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness
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Brother_Tempus posted:
if memory serves correctly, Obama came from a single parent home that wad nit all that affluent and became President
just saying
wad nit indeed.
It's funny when you're so anxious to get your idiocy posted that you can't even type.
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jonus156 Posts: 906
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i grew up poor ive been working damn hard to make a better life for my family my wife went back to school and as soon as she graduates ill go back for my degree so i can show my kid that education and hard work are the key to success not being born with a silver spoon in your mouth. ( I hope that makes sense trying to think with a migraine is damn hard)
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Anebriated Title: I should be reading a book
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wait, it's possible to grow up poor and achieve success? omg! i was about to argue that it was impossible for any poor person to ever make it but you really defeated that one.
what i really want to know is, is it possible for a conservative to think of a more complicated relationship than A causes B.
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JD_HOGG Posts: 2,846
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Anebriated posted:
wait, it's possible to grow up poor and achieve success? omg! i was about to argue that it was impossible for any poor person to ever make it but you really defeated that one.
what i really want to know is, is it possible for a conservative to think of a more complicated relationship than A causes B.
The big secret is that life really isn't all that complicated. Can't be if a stupid "conservative" like me can succeed.
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Anebriated Title: I should be reading a book
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simple rules can have success in complicated environments. ACF is complicated, yes? pretty hard to predict some things on a large scale even though some users are very predictable. some threads go into unpredictable directions.
one simple rule for example is pretending to be retarded. it will usually get responses. trololol success.
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Anebriated posted:
simple rules can have success in complicated environments. ACF is complicated, yes? pretty hard to predict some things on a large scale even though some users are very predictable. some threads go into unpredictable directions.
one simple rule for example is pretending to be retarded. it will usually get responses. trololol success.
It gets me EVERY TIME!
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