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Steelwind_Oo  4 stars
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HeartView posted:

TheDarkDecending posted:

Aerlinthian:
Minecraft's world can support /infinite/ dimensions. The theoretical limit for a Minecraft world, from the limits of the number of integers Java can store, is more than eight times the surface area of the Earth. Dereth is about the size of Rhode Island. A 1:10 scale of Dereth is in no way a problem for Minecraft.



I'm going to bet the engine cannot scale its performance to that level, though.



Performance isn't an issue of map size but of users since it only loads what is being used. Of course the point is kind of moot as it has pretty poor resource management and ends up slurping up memory over time anyway, lol.

 

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HeartView  4 stars
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Steelwind_Oo posted:

Performance isn't an issue of map size but of users since it only loads what is being used. Of course the point is kind of moot as it has pretty poor resource management and ends up slurping up memory over time anyway, lol.



That was kind of my point... how much memory would it take to represent a map that big and how would the performance be using structures that large? If the data file for it is 10 GB and it doesn't use some scheme like memory mapped files, then performance is going to suck hard. How many people have computers with even 8 GB of memory (I do, but I'm a nerd)?

 

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Steelwind_Oo  4 stars
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Files are in folder structured chunks so aren't that big individually and using a grid system they are only accessed when needed. They were even more granular (smaller) but it was inefficient on bigger maps due to the number of files. Boy did it do evil things to my rdiffs too when they used that format, lol.

 

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TheDarkDecending
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This is still [sporadically] being worked on. As stated, it will be finished. The ends of the term has been rougher than previously anticipated. Turned in a thesis draft yesterday, presented a minor project today, and have yet another project to finish over the coming week.

 

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I have a draft at the 10% scale currently being finished. The roads I had set to import as cobblestone, but instead they came out as snow. I'm manually fixing this in Creative. I will not, however, be cleaning up other edges, nor will I be adding the buildings and such to towns - 10% scale is too small for faithful recreations.

I have, in the last few days, managed to get a 20% scale map that would not break the heightmapper. The heightmap I'm using did not scale up appropriately, however, so I will need to do a great deal of trial and error to have the terrain actually match up to Dereth. This will be quite time consuming: Each draft import of the 10% took roughly 1-2 hours. The single draft of the 20% took 11 hours to convert.

The 20% scale map appears to be large enough that cities could be rebuilt with acceptable accuracy.


Once I have finished fixing up the roads, I will update this post with a download link for the 10% scale map.
I will also attach my recreations of Dryreach [one is scaled to player height, the other such that the buildings are sized proportionately to one another].

 

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