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jeune  1 star
Posts: 216
Registered: 2005-5-29 13:25:11
You are always going to need a 1 cent marker for currency... I think it is too ingrained into our system to change.

As things are going who really uses cash anyways? Penny will end up being a symbolic relic of the past until electronic transfers take over... will probably cost the taxpayers more to stamp out a penny than it is worth but really who cares about such little things?

 

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Itab  4 stars
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mightbe posted:

absolutly not.

if everything would be rounded up, that would be less money in my pocket.

think about it this way, if you on average make more then 1000 transactions a year and would have lost 3 cents on average, that is three dollars i think



Think......3000 pennies.

 

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mightbe  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-7-21 12:49:15
Itab posted:

mightbe posted:

absolutly not.

if everything would be rounded up, that would be less money in my pocket.

think about it this way, if you on average make more then 1000 transactions a year and would have lost 3 cents on average, that is three dollars i think



Think......3000 pennies.



o yea 30 bucks...thanks....makles more since

 

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mightbe  3 stars
Title: lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala
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Registered: 2003-7-21 12:49:15
mightbe posted:

Itab posted:

mightbe posted:

absolutly not.

if everything would be rounded up, that would be less money in my pocket.

think about it this way, if you on average make more then 1000 transactions a year and would have lost 3 cents on average, that is three dollars i think



Think......3000 pennies.



o yea 30 bucks...thanks....makles more since



well like that article said.....u would round down on 2 and up on 4 but what about 3? if they round up i loose....if they round down, i win....buisness will always want to round up on 3 then, so im going to loose 3 and boomn 1000 and boom boom 3000 and voom 100 wimmm 30

 

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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
Title: Patriot
Posts: 985
Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
Mr. Chairman,

I oppose HR 5512 because it is unconstitutional to delegate the determination of the metal content of our coinage to the Secretary of the Treasury. Under Article I Section 8 of the Constitution, the Congress is given the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof. It is a shame that Congress has already unconstitutionally delegated its coinage authority to the Treasury Department, but that is no reason to further delegate our power and essentially abdicate Congressional oversight as the passing of HR 5512 would do.

Oversight by members of Congress, who have an incentive to listen to their constituents, ensures openness and transparency. This bill would eliminate that process and delegate it to unelected bureaucrats. The Secretary of the Treasury would be given sole discretion to alter the metal content of coins, or even to create non-metal coins. Given the history of Congressional delegation and subsequent lax oversight on issues as important as the conflict in Iraq, it would be naïve to believe that Congress would exercise any more oversight over an issue as unimportant to most members as the composition of coins.

While I sympathize with the aim of Section 4 of this bill to save taxpayer dollars by minting steel pennies, it is disappointing that our currency has been so greatly devalued as to make this step necessary. At the time of the penny's introduction, it actually had some purchasing power. Based on the price of gold, what one penny would have purchased in 1909 requires 47 cents today. It is no wonder then that few people nowadays would stoop to pick up any coin smaller than a quarter.

Congress' unconstitutional delegation of monetary policy to the Federal Reserve and its reluctance to exercise oversight in that arena have led to a massive devaluation of the dollar. If we fail to end this devaluation, we will undoubtedly hold future hearings as the metal value of our coins continues to outstrip the face value.

HR 5512 is a sad commentary on how far we have fallen, not just since the days of the Founders, but only in the last 75 to 100 years. We could not maintain the gold standard nor the silver standard. We could not maintain the copper standard, and now we cannot even maintain the zinc standard. Paper money inevitably breeds inflation and destroys the value of the currency. That is the reason that this proposal is before us today.


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Varece  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-7 21:48:11
No

 

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notmforce2k  4 stars
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Yes.
Rhodoman  4 stars
Posts: 1,397
Registered: 2001-6-14 21:02:19
Yes.

And we need a five dollar coin.

Rho

 

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Hawkson  4 stars
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Posts: 1,791
Registered: 2001-10-23 22:57:09
Yes, if .01-.04 were rounded to .00, and .06-.09 were rounded to the next .10 up.

 

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timtheswordsman  1 star
Posts: 127
Registered: 2002-3-1 20:06:10
Hawkson posted:

Yes, if .01-.04 were rounded to .00, and .06-.09 were rounded to the next .10 up.



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