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Bork_the_orc posted:
Is the kid in the wheelchair one of the gay ones?
Not yet, at least.
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So the show is getting gayer over time?
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regulator_cracka posted:
....while strongly reinforcing the stereotype that all boys schools have all gay members.  TLDRBecauseIsawGLEE - You can bash gays here.
not everyone at Dalton is gay...I think the episode that they introduced Blaine in back in season two when Kurt asked if they were all gay, 1 said he was one said he was straight and well we know Blaine is gay too. Its sort of like the shows from the 70's like "The Jeffersons" and "Good Times" when the fight for ethnic equality was in full swing with an all black cast and one token white person. Its television made by a certain subculture for a certain subculture. Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing Im not saying which I think it is. I think we're in the middle of a new sexual revolution for gay people where we are more free to express ourselves just like everyone else. I think if gay people were allowed to express themselves more freely and didnt feel so oppressed by society to stay closeted or play the good little gay(as in "its ok if you're gay just DONT ever talk about it or mention it around us EVER again - but really we are totally ok that you are gay) type of thing then you wouldnt have as many of the flamer type of gays that stereotype all gay people now a days. I liken it to the black panthers and how some white people were scared of all black people because of the actions of a few.
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NonOffensiveName posted:
regulator_cracka posted:
....while strongly reinforcing the stereotype that all boys schools have all gay members. TLDRBecauseIsawGLEE - You can bash gays here.
not everyone at Dalton is gay...I think the episode that they introduced Blaine in back in season two when Kurt asked if they were all gay, 1 said he was one said he was straight and well we know Blaine is gay too. Its sort of like the shows from the 70's like "The Jeffersons" and "Good Times" when the fight for ethnic equality was in full swing with an all black cast and one token white person. Its television made by a certain subculture for a certain subculture. Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing Im not saying which I think it is. I think we're in the middle of a new sexual revolution for gay people where we are more free to express ourselves just like everyone else. I think if gay people were allowed to express themselves more freely and didnt feel so oppressed by society to stay closeted or play the good little gay(as in "its ok if you're gay just DONT ever talk about it or mention it around us EVER again - but really we are totally ok that you are gay) type of thing then you wouldnt have as many of the flamer type of gays that stereotype all gay people now a days. I liken it to the black panthers and how some white people were scared of all black people because of the actions of a few.
I figured you of all people would agree, cmon the lead guy now twice from Dalton is gay. The all girl school that performed last night does not have a consistent gay female lead character, nor is there a consistent all girl school represented.
Just seems counterproductive to continue to promote that stereotype while trying so hard to squash so many others. It seems to me to continue feeding small minds. If the boys school has a strong talented hetero, that is what is not expected.
Do you agree with continuing to exemplify what is "expected" by small minds in the show, but try to change others? It negates itself.
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regulator_cracka posted:
NonOffensiveName posted:
regulator_cracka posted:
....while strongly reinforcing the stereotype that all boys schools have all gay members. TLDRBecauseIsawGLEE - You can bash gays here.
not everyone at Dalton is gay...I think the episode that they introduced Blaine in back in season two when Kurt asked if they were all gay, 1 said he was one said he was straight and well we know Blaine is gay too. Its sort of like the shows from the 70's like "The Jeffersons" and "Good Times" when the fight for ethnic equality was in full swing with an all black cast and one token white person. Its television made by a certain subculture for a certain subculture. Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing Im not saying which I think it is. I think we're in the middle of a new sexual revolution for gay people where we are more free to express ourselves just like everyone else. I think if gay people were allowed to express themselves more freely and didnt feel so oppressed by society to stay closeted or play the good little gay(as in "its ok if you're gay just DONT ever talk about it or mention it around us EVER again - but really we are totally ok that you are gay) type of thing then you wouldnt have as many of the flamer type of gays that stereotype all gay people now a days. I liken it to the black panthers and how some white people were scared of all black people because of the actions of a few.
I figured you of all people would agree, cmon the lead guy now twice from Dalton is gay. The all girl school that performed last night does not have a consistent gay female lead character, nor is there a consistent all girl school represented. Just seems counterproductive to continue to promote that stereotype while trying so hard to squash so many others. It seems to me to continue feeding small minds. If the boys school has a strong talented hetero, that is what is not expected. Do you agree with continuing to exemplify what is "expected" by small minds in the show, but try to change others? It negates itself.
I think if they were perpetuating a stereotype they would have a school official messing around with the boys at the school or even more bullying/hazing at an all boys school which is what I think the stereotypes are than all the boys there being gay. Theyre far more serious stereotypes they could be perpetuating than that one. I think if anything they are breaking the stereotype by saying that Dalton has a 0 tolerance policy for bullying kids in general and it seemed like most of the gay kids were "out" at school and they didnt seem to make a big deal about it. If it were just a "normal" all boys school and they tried what theyre doing on Glee then yea it would perpetuate the stereotype but I think theyre projecting the "ideal" type of what they think an all boys school SHOULD be.If a few small minded people are going to take that as "perpetuating" the stereotype then I can live with that. People who want to see the bad in something are always going to see the bad in it no matter what. And people who want to see if the good in something then they will take it for what its meant to be. I mean lets face it, if you were a gay teen and you had the choice to go to an all boys high school or a regular one which one would you pick? LOL (it be like giving a straight guy the option to go to an all girls academy) My point is there are bound to be gay students at just about any all boys high school
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All I know is that their re-mix of "I Believe I Can Fly" was way better than the original.
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Have not heard of this show. It sounds dumb.
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Ashmaele
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JD_HOGG posted:
Have not heard of this show. It sounds dumb.
Did you ever watch Cop Rock?
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NonOffensiveName posted:
or even more bullying/hazing at an all boys school which is what I think the stereotypes are than all the boys there being gay. Theyre far more serious stereotypes they could be perpetuating than that one. I think if anything they are breaking the stereotype by saying that Dalton has a 0 tolerance policy for bullying kids in general and it seemed like most of the gay kids were "out" at school and they didnt seem to make a big deal about it.
Are we watching the same show? Bullying?
First, when Blane was head of the Warblers there was no bullying or aggression demonstrated, so an all boys school not full of bullying, one of your points denied.
Second, now the new "gay guy" is head of the warblers has stalked and threatened porcelain and blane, almost put blane's eye out with rock salt, made numerous threats, and almost released fake photos of finn.
What were you saying about boys school full of bullying and Dalton having a zero tolerance policy towards bullying? Very contradictory to the show I watch or I guess the[y] save it for anyone else but them.
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The all-boys school has 2 gay kids in its glee club, and that's enforcing a stereotype?
Hell, just by basic statistics, there should be more gay members, given the size of their glee club.
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