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Onslaught.  4 stars
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Meh. it's not bad... not that great either, though.

 

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_sooz_  4 stars
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Registered: 2004-12-4 11:40:44
How did you eat it? That can make a huge difference. Personally i think it's best on toast.

 

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Onslaught.  4 stars
Title: I've always wanted a title.
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Registered: 2001-2-13 13:46:37
On toast.


One square with cream cheese in the mix, one without.

 

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Kanga_Roo  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 12:58:17
Yeah people get kinda mean when you profit from bad advice. If you can live with the profit you can probably live with the mean.

 

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Ferrydust  3 stars
Title: Iron Chef Jennifer
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Registered: 2002-9-4 20:32:54
It was my understanding that people were 'mean' to her because she only decided to announce she had diabetes since she hooked up with a pharmaceutical company who she will be a spokesperson for.

 

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_sooz_  4 stars
Posts: 1,256
Registered: 2004-12-4 11:40:44
Onslaught. posted:

On toast.


One square with cream cheese in the mix, one without.



I like using it to "spice up" a cheese sandwich, too, that's pretty awesome. But then sometimes i just stick my finger in the jar for the hell of it lol

 

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Kanga_Roo  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 12:58:17
Rhodoman posted:

Gaevren posted:

How does butter have anything to do with diabetes?

Please. This is ACF. Your logic and reasonableness are not appreciated here.

Rho



http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/fat-and-diabetes.html

"One of the important diabetes nutrition guidelines is to eat less than 7% of calories from saturated fat. For most people eating, this is about 15 grams of saturated fat per day. That is not much when you consider just one ounce of cheese can have 8 grams of saturated fat."

 

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Gaevren  4 stars
Title: Wat do?
Posts: 1,181
Registered: 2004-9-15 09:29:36
Kanga_Roo posted:

Rhodoman posted:

Gaevren posted:

How does butter have anything to do with diabetes?

Please. This is ACF. Your logic and reasonableness are not appreciated here.

Rho



http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/fat-and-diabetes.html

"One of the important diabetes nutrition guidelines is to eat less than 7% of calories from saturated fat. For most people eating, this is about 15 grams of saturated fat per day. That is not much when you consider just one ounce of cheese can have 8 grams of saturated fat."



Perhaps I should clarify. It's one thing when you already have diabetes, because yes you're at a higher risk for heart disease and thus should probably lower your saturated fat intake.

However, I've seen a number of people say something like "well what did she expect, eating all that butter? OF COURSE she got diabetes!!"

There is no evidence on this green earth that eating fatty foods contributes to the development of type 2 diabetes, apart from the fact that if you stuff your face all day and never exercise, you're gonna get fat, and obesity is definitely a risk factor.

http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/168/14/1500

 

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Kanga_Roo  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 12:58:17
Gaevren posted:

Kanga_Roo posted:

Rhodoman posted:

Gaevren posted:

How does butter have anything to do with diabetes?

Please. This is ACF. Your logic and reasonableness are not appreciated here.

Rho



http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/fat-and-diabetes.html

"One of the important diabetes nutrition guidelines is to eat less than 7% of calories from saturated fat. For most people eating, this is about 15 grams of saturated fat per day. That is not much when you consider just one ounce of cheese can have 8 grams of saturated fat."



Perhaps I should clarify. It's one thing when you already have diabetes, because yes you're at a higher risk for heart disease and thus should probably lower your saturated fat intake.

However, I've seen a number of people say something like "well what did she expect, eating all that butter? OF COURSE she got diabetes!!"

There is no evidence on this green earth that eating fatty foods contributes to the development of type 2 diabetes, apart from the fact that if you stuff your face all day and never exercise, you're gonna get fat, and obesity is definitely a risk factor.

http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/168/14/1500


Who Gets Type 2 Diabetes?

Anyone can get type 2 diabetes. However, those at highest risk for the disease are those who are obese or overweight, women who have had gestational diabetes, people with family members who have type 2 diabetes and people who have metabolic syndrome (a cluster of problems that include high cholesterol, high triglycerides, low good 'HDL' cholesterol and a high bad 'LDL' cholesterol, and high blood pressure). In addition, older people are more susceptible to developing the disease since aging makes the body less tolerant of sugars.

http://diabetes.webmd.com/guide/type-2-diabetes

If you are asking for definite proof that butter leads to type 2 - it isn't there. But to say there is no evidence is inaccurate. The foods she pushed (butter based) and being obese/overweight and high LDL is a pretty easy connection. Simply put eating fatty foods does lead to greatly increased chances of being overweight or obese - both risk factors for type 2. So there is evidence just not proof.

Hiding her status while cutting a deal was low.

I will be mean to public figures that push the eat whatever you want and pop a pill lifestyle. Again she can live with the profit so she can probably live with the mean.

 

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Gaevren  4 stars
Title: Wat do?
Posts: 1,181
Registered: 2004-9-15 09:29:36
That's actually the thing most people seem to be peeved about. Not even so much about the having diabetes while promoting unhealthy foods, but the pharmaceutical deal and whatnot. I just don't care enough about Paula Deen to...well...care. Except for the fact that every time I see her face on a magazine it scares me a little bit. She always looks so...plastic and startled, with the psycho smile and the wide open eyes and the pink pink lipstick.

From the study I linked, there was no difference in development of type 2 diabetes between women who ate a high fat diet vs. women who ate a low fat diet. What they did find was that regardless of the type of diet, the women who lost weight were less likely to develop diabetes- all around indicating that weight, and not the foods you eat, was where the risk lies.

 

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