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Rhodoman  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-6-14 21:02:19
All of our income should be taxed the same as all of the rest of our income.

Rho

 

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jeune  1 star
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Registered: 2005-5-29 13:25:11
Rhodoman posted:

All of our income should be taxed the same as all of the rest of our income.

Rho



Why?

Why do republicans always want to tax people who dont have money... does it give them a boner just pissing people off... even when they are just giving themselves another tax?

do people even think?

 

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Rhodoman  4 stars
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jeune posted:

Rhodoman posted:

All of our income should be taxed the same as all of the rest of our income.

Rho



Why?

Why do republicans always want to tax people who dont have money... does it give them a boner just pissing people off... even when they are just giving themselves another tax?

do people even think?

It's an INCOME tax. People who have an INCOME would pay the tax. Everybody participates fairly. Isn't that what everybody keeps whining about?

Make a buck, pay a dime in taxes. When EVERYONE is paying taxes and recognizes them as taxes, they will start to give a damn about how stoopidly huge the government wasteful spending is.

Rho

 

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faefrost  1 star
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Registered: 2000-4-27 21:34:34
Eradiani posted:

However, (and in many cases the 10th man in the US is corporations), we all see endless stories where corporations pay damn near nothing in US taxes



OK once more, for the dimmer ones in the Room.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CORPORATE TAXES!!! THEY ARE A LIE!!! CORPORATIONS DO NOT "PAY" TAXES! TAXES ARE A PASS THROUGH EXPENSE FOR CORPORATIONS. THEY ARE A SALES TAX ON YOU. THE END CONSUMER. DISGUISED BY ANOTHER NAME BECAUSE YOUR POLITICAL LEADERSHIP KNOWS YOU WOULD BURN THEM ALIVE IF THEY ACTUALLY IMPOSED SAID SALES TAX ON YOU.

 

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faefrost  1 star
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jeune posted:

Rhodoman posted:

All of our income should be taxed the same as all of the rest of our income.

Rho



Why?

Why do republicans always want to tax people who dont have money... does it give them a boner just pissing people off... even when they are just giving themselves another tax?

do people even think?



The most basic reason of all, accountability. If everyone has some skin in the game, then everyone has legitimate reason to care about how much we are actually spending as a nation and on what. When for 50% of the citizenry the public treasury is a magic wishing bag, then any and all accountability to the electorate evaporates in a binge of self serving greed. If, regardless of your income level, you know that 22 cents of every dollar you earn will be spent by the government, you will make sure that the government spends that money cautiously, and does not find cause to ask for more. If however all of that money comes from someone else, then you will insist that the government spend it freely regardless of wisdom or consequences.

 

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jeune  1 star
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Registered: 2005-5-29 13:25:11
I understand your point and see nothing wrong with a nominal 3-5% tax on any income just to make sure everyone is paying something. I highly doubt enforcement would even be worth the nominal amount though... it is just ideological garbage.

What is wrong with our current system.

the first amount of money we make goes to our basic needs... the government should not be able to deprive us of basic human rights.

the next bracket the money is still worth more to us so it is taxed at a lower rate.

the next bracket is still worth more than the next and the next.

No one is forcing you to make obscene amounts of money... what are you arguing?! That pretty much we should set up an absurd simplistic crap that will hurt the vast majority of Americans?

 

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Wulfgarr
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Registered: 2002-3-24 21:23:13
False analogy is false.

 

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Eradiani  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-5-3 02:18:49
how about you just google search corporations paying nearly no tax and look at the articles. Sure some could be misleading, but there are dozens upon dozens of them.

It's pretty simple in how it works. Items are made overseas. The US business BUYS the item from the overseas division for pretty much what they sell the item for and so when they do sell the item it marks as 0 profit from the sale. But all the profit is being shown in the overseas division.

This is the kind of tax loophole that pretty much every corporation is exploiting and it's 100% legal because our taxation system is about as retarded as the average US citizen

 

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Second_Chance  2 stars
Title: Great One
Posts: 308
Registered: 2001-2-28 15:45:11
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beers and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this…

The first four men who all got to be in the air conditioning of the tavern and could not afford to drink would pay nothing because they only smelled it
The fifth man who got enough of one beer to wet his tongue would pay $1
The sixth man who got a 1/12 sixth of one beer would pay $3
The seventh man who got a 1/6 seventh of one beer would pay $7
The eighth man who got a 2/6 sixth of one beer would pay $12
The ninth man who drank an entire beer by himself would pay $18
The tenth man (the richest) who drank 9 beers would pay $59


And that tenth man, bitch ass republican whore would cry about the tab.

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
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Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
If you included their actual incomes it would look something like this:

First 4 guys all make 20K or less
5-30K
6-40K
7-50K
8-60K
9-70K
10-57,000K

Boo fricken Hoo.

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