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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
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there is a 195 nations that are recognized and maintain diplomatic relations with the US do the math.

here you want the source info dig through this.
this is from 2009
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/11statab/defense.pdf

 

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Banelord_FF  2 stars
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Sith_Mauler posted:

there is a 195 nations that are recognized and maintain diplomatic relations with the US do the math.

here you want the source info dig through this.
this is from 2009
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/11statab/defense.pdf



Dude just stop, you got wtfpwned by several people on this thread and no matter what you post your claim will still be wrong.

 

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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
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Banelord_FF posted:

Sith_Mauler posted:

there is a 195 nations that are recognized and maintain diplomatic relations with the US do the math.

here you want the source info dig through this.
this is from 2009
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/11statab/defense.pdf



Dude just stop, you got wtfpwned by several people on this thread and no matter what you post your claim will still be wrong.



really so its ok that we have troops world wide.
really why do we need 50K troops still in Germany alone, 70k total in europe?

The military of the United States is deployed in more than 150 countries around the world, with more than 205,118 of its 1,425,113[1] active-duty personnel serving outside the United States and its territories. Most of these overseas personnel are deployed in combat zones in the Middle east, as part of the War on Terror. Many of the remainder are located at installations activated during the Cold War, by which the US government sought to challenge the Soviet Union in the aftermath of World War II.



dark blue=More than 1000 US troops
light blue= More than 100 US troops
brown= Use of military facilities

 

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Caledric  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-22 07:59:39
Sith_Mauler posted:

Caledric posted:

Btw Sith since you obviously weren't bright enough to do the research... Those 135 countries we have troops in... all of them have one thing in common. They have a US Embassy or Ambassador. And where there is an Embassy or Ambassador... There are Marines.



Although most of these locations are in the continental United States, 96 of them are in U.S. territories around the globe, and 702 of them are in foreign countries. But as Chalmers Johnson has documented, the figure of 702 foreign military installations is too low, for it does not include installations in Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Qatar, and Uzbekistan. Johnson estimates that an honest count would be closer to 1,000.

The number of countries that the United States has a presence in is staggering. According the U.S. Department of State's list of "Independent States in the World," there are 192 countries in the world, all of which, except Bhutan, Cuba, Iran, and North Korea, have diplomatic relations with the United States. All of these countries except one (Vatican City) are members of the United Nations. According to the Department of Defense publication, "Active Duty Military Personnel Strengths by Regional Area and by Country," the United States has troops in 135 countries. Here is the list:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance8.html



So in other words... you are clueless?

 

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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
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give me one good reason why we should have 70k troops in Europe are they sacred of big bad Russia still?

 

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Banelord_FF  2 stars
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Sith_Mauler posted:

give me one good reason why we should have 70k troops in Europe are they sacred of big bad Russia still?



No one is saying we should, but that doesn't mean we have significant numbers of troops in all of those countries you listed.

 

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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
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Banelord_FF posted:

Sith_Mauler posted:

give me one good reason why we should have 70k troops in Europe are they sacred of big bad Russia still?



No one is saying we should, but that doesn't mean we have significant numbers of troops in all of those countries you listed.



60% of standing active duty troops are stationed outside of US territory, in 2008 during the height of the Iraq and Afghanistan that percentage reached as high as 76%.

 

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JD_HOGG  4 stars
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Sith_Mauler posted:

Banelord_FF posted:

Sith_Mauler posted:

there is a 195 nations that are recognized and maintain diplomatic relations with the US do the math.

here you want the source info dig through this.
this is from 2009
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/11statab/defense.pdf



Dude just stop, you got wtfpwned by several people on this thread and no matter what you post your claim will still be wrong.



really so its ok that we have troops world wide.
really why do we need 50K troops still in Germany alone, 70k total in europe?

The military of the United States is deployed in more than 150 countries around the world, with more than 205,118 of its 1,425,113[1] active-duty personnel serving outside the United States and its territories. Most of these overseas personnel are deployed in combat zones in the Middle east, as part of the War on Terror. Many of the remainder are located at installations activated during the Cold War, by which the US government sought to challenge the Soviet Union in the aftermath of World War II.



dark blue=More than 1000 US troops
light blue= More than 100 US troops
brown= Use of military facilities



WHERE IS BROWN!?? I only see two blues and orange.
Caledric  4 stars
Title: Pew! Pew! Pew!
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Registered: 2001-12-22 07:59:39
Sith_Mauler posted:

Banelord_FF posted:

Sith_Mauler posted:

give me one good reason why we should have 70k troops in Europe are they sacred of big bad Russia still?



No one is saying we should, but that doesn't mean we have significant numbers of troops in all of those countries you listed.



60% of standing active duty troops are stationed outside of US territory, in 2008 during the height of the Iraq and Afghanistan that percentage reached as high as 76%.



Take out Germany, Japan, Iraq and Afghanistan then re-run those numbers. Suddenly your little whinefest here doesn't hold much weight.

 

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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
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Caledric posted:

Sith_Mauler posted:

Banelord_FF posted:

Sith_Mauler posted:

give me one good reason why we should have 70k troops in Europe are they sacred of big bad Russia still?



No one is saying we should, but that doesn't mean we have significant numbers of troops in all of those countries you listed.



60% of standing active duty troops are stationed outside of US territory, in 2008 during the height of the Iraq and Afghanistan that percentage reached as high as 76%.



Take out Germany, Japan, Iraq and Afghanistan then re-run those numbers. Suddenly your little whinefest here doesn't hold much weight.


so why does Japan Germany Iraq and Afghanistan deserve an exception?

those are US troops stationed there, using the same pot of money that all the troops are funded from?

 

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