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-Abysmal-  Posts: 1,328
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JD_HOGG posted:
I thought it was kinda lame, but maybe they teach it at neighborhood security seminars or something.
well they certainly teach to stay in a safe location and observe, not be a hero.
if you're getting a beat down after saying you are not needed, you are not in a safe location.
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In total, he had 12 pieces of mostly women’s rings and earrings in his bag.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html#ixzz1qLu6Xlhf
you gots some explaining to do. 
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Zimmerman has an assault history...but that's OK right?
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Ardenwolfe  Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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In fact, he has two assault charges. One on a woman at her home and one on a police officer. But, his daddy's a judge, so draw your own conclusions. The prior charges against a victim, who is dead, always makes me cringe.
It's like saying, "Well! She's a hooker. Of course she was raped." Besides, what did Martin have on him again? That's right. Ice tea and candy. He was obviously a danger to the community. 
Also, keep in mind, they tested Martin's corpse for drug use and came up empty. On Zimmerman? They didn't even bother. Not that that's standard procedure to test the shooter and not the victim or anything . . . because it is.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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Fallen_daemon posted:
Trayvon was kicked out of school in October for graffiti after he was allegedly caught with a 'burglary tool' and a bag full of women's jewelry
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html#ixzz1qLsCAgGX
Zimmerman's hunch was right dude is up to no good!!
 What a stupid conclusion
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Arc_DT Title: Mithan said I am smart
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Registered: 2002-5-28 08:25:51
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JD_HOGG posted:
Ardenwolfe posted:
Well, his own neighbors called in and complained about Zimmerman and his overzealous actions. Does that count?
Edit: Audio experts have amplified and cleaned the sound excerpt. It's not f---ing goons, punks, or anything else other than the racial remark. You can find them with a simple Google search.
Right. Experts. More expert than the army of character assassins in the media who can't say for certain. They definitely don't have any audio experts at their disposal.
Well, unlike you maroons, I AM an expert here. I have a BS in Linguistics with extended work in phonology and waveform analysis of spoken language.
The problem is that is would be incredibly difficult to differentiate "goons" from "coons" in this case. He whispered the word, which means the whole word was devoiced. When a voiced velar plosive "G" is unvoiced, one normally can still differentiate it from the unvoiced velar plosive "K" in that "K" will have a distinctive aspiration (release of air after the consonant) in all dialects of English. Unfortunately, it has the smallest aspiration of all of the unvoiced plosives (T, P) and would be harder to detect even in a clean recording. The fact that the recording is highly raspy at that point, due to his running and panting, would make that nearly impossible.
On the plus side, it would be easier to prove a difficult aspiration is there when it is than to prove it wasn't there when it wasn't. If "goon" were the racial slur, then I would consider it probably impossible to prove he had said that, but as the aspirated "coon" is, there's a small chance they'll be able to find the aspiration in the recording.
It's nice that he was using a cell phone... an old land line clips waveforms and it would be hard to prove anything on one of them on even a clean recording. I guess it's also nice that Martin wasn't Vietnamese...
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Ardenwolfe Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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I don't think you need a Bachelor of Science degree to figure this out. Just use common sense. Who in the world calls anyone a goon? I've never even heard someone use that word as an insult.
Coon . . . that's another thing altogether.
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-Abysmal- Posts: 1,328
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Ardenwolfe posted:
I don't think you need a Bachelor of Science degree to figure this out. Just use common sense. Who in the world calls anyone a goon? I've never even heard someone use that word as an insult.
Coon . . . that's another thing altogether.
i have heard it, but i really dont think he was talking about a hockey player!
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Gibbon_raver posted:
Ardenwolfe posted:
This is going to end badly no matter what.
nope, everybody will lose something
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WhipSmack Posts: 358
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EVERYONE STFU, You weren't there you don't know what happened.
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