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Gaevren  4 stars
Title: Wat do?
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Registered: 2004-9-15 09:29:36
At this point I think I would just take the freaking lump sum lol.

 

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tantallous  1 star
Title: Thought Police
Posts: 192
Registered: 2002-1-11 23:14:32
-Abysmal- posted:

lump sum here in MA, kidnap my kid from his mother and move to some island and not tell a soul!!



so uh.. hows that not telling anyone working out for ya?

 

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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-12-21 13:40:03
I want cash now, just because of the nature of interest.

 

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putzbutt  1 star
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Registered: 2001-12-25 08:34:18
i'd take the annuity because of the nature of me

 

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Cao_Ren  1 star
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Posts: 157
Registered: 2001-7-13 18:33:35
HeartView posted:

Cao_Ren posted:

year 21: 529.57 vs 535.76

So, it would take 21 years for the annuity to beat the lump sum at 5%. However, in this scenario, the lump sum person got 79 million to play with up front. The annuity person didn't get anything. This would look a lot different if the annuity was reduced for play money.



The yearly payouts continue to 26 years.

It only matters if you plan to use more than what the yearly payouts would be, if you anticipate spending more in the first few years then the lump sum is the way to go, otherwise go with the payments. This is especially true if you are young enough to survive the 26 years of payments.



You're missing the point. Yes, I know there are 26 payments. I'm saying it would take 21 payments for the annuity to overtake the lump sum investment if you never took a dime out of it. But if you never take a dime out of it, what's the point? The lump some investor got 79 million to spend on top of his investment.

And if you bump up the percentage to 7%, the annuity investment could never overtake the lump sum investment.

Here, play with this javascript in your scratchpad:


function interest()
{
var years = 27;
var lumpAmount = 200;
var annuityAmount = 15;
var interest = 1.07;
for (var x = 0; x < years; x++)
{
lumpAmount = lumpAmount * interest;
annuityAmount = annuityAmount * interest + 15;
}

alert( "lump: " + lumpAmount + "; annuity: " + annuityAmount);
}

interest();

 

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HeartView  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-20 08:11:56
I'm not missing the point. Most people couldn't handle suddenly having $10 million let alone $500 million. Personally, after the first $5 million I'd have to get creative on how to spend it or save it. The thought of piling up money just to make more money does not appeal to me at all. In 30 years are you really going to care if your fortunes are at $500 million or $600 million? Will it really matter?

 

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Cao_Ren  1 star
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Posts: 157
Registered: 2001-7-13 18:33:35
Also, if comparing apples to apples, investing everything either way (the full 279 million vs the 15 million annuity), at 5% and 26 years:

lump: 1041.63 million
annuity: 876.04 million

 

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HeartView  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-20 08:11:56
Cao_Ren posted:

Also, if comparing apples to apples, investing everything either way (the full 279 million vs the 15 million annuity), at 5% and 26 years:

lump: 1041.63 million
annuity: 876.04 million



But the vast majority of people would not stop at spending the $79 million you would choose to spend. Most would finish that off and go back for more. If you are capable of that level of self control then great for you. But history has proven over and over again that the vast majority of people that come into sudden wealth do not know how to handle it and lose it quickly.

 

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Cao_Ren  1 star
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HeartView posted:

I'm not missing the point. Most people couldn't handle suddenly having $10 million let alone $500 million. Personally, after the first $5 million I'd have to get creative on how to spend it or save it. The thought of piling up money just to make more money does not appeal to me at all. In 30 years are you really going to care if your fortunes are at $500 million or $600 million? Will it really matter?


Your original argument was about a concern of losing $100 million. Now you're recanting?


HeartView posted:

You'd
be starting out over $100 million behind from the payment method. Are
you going to make that back over 26 years considering you could still
invest your yearly payments and get the same interest/dividends?

 

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