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Hyperimiator  3 stars
Title: Maximus Probus
Posts: 840
Registered: 2001-7-20 18:55:36
AliHajiSheik posted:

Hyperimiator posted:

AliHajiSheik posted:

Hyperimiator posted:

Tai-Daishar_MT posted:

Hard to imagine earmarks being an issue when they can't even propose a budget, let alone pass one.



That is their whole point, without earmarks (internal bribes) they cant agree on a budget or pretty much anything else.



Do you even understand how earmarks work? And your cartoon on "Trickle Down Wealth," very funny. We can both agree that the needy should get help, but the difference is that you see everyone as being needy. Cut federal spending by 50% and take the power away from these Congresspeople.



You have no shortage of gall, inferring I don't understand earmarks, (having once engaged a lobbyist and written a few of my own) and then you come out with your stellar suggestion to "cut federal spending 50%" and problem solved as a remedy, why not just wave your magic wand, as that has about as much chance of success.


Oh God, please don't have another drama filled hissy fit. So when people ask you questions, the inference is always that the answer is assumed to be no?

Try this. Earmarks don't add money to the budget, they take money allocated to a department and require that those funds be spent for a particular purpose. You say that it is a bribe, but the bribe isn't in money, its in influence and being able to say back home that you brought home the bacon. People like bacon so they keep voting them into office.

You laugh at my solution of cutting 50% but I never see you stop sucking at the government tit. Of course not, you only work on worthwhile public projects. Right? Well people tend to like their own worthwhile public projects while hating others. My solution is to cut the amount that can be spent and you solution is to get mad at the people doing the spending. My magic wand is more likely to work than yours.


Don't use water out of a tap, don't use electricity, don't drive on roads, and don't flush the toilet, and I won't need to do my useless infrastructure projects, and don't forget to go off the grid so we don't have to see your worthless imaginary solutions for difficult complex problems.

 

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AliHajiSheik  1 star
Posts: 143
Registered: 2003-1-5 08:42:33
Don't dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back. Plenty of people do important things. Your sarcasm about what you do being useless is a slight of your own imagination, I don't think its useless and never have. Keep on the subject please and see the point that all the things you do don't have to be done with federal money. Why did you immediately go to the conclusion that it does? Would any of your projects go undone if the feds stopped funding them (assuming that they do.)?

 

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Hyperimiator  3 stars
Title: Maximus Probus
Posts: 840
Registered: 2001-7-20 18:55:36
AliHajiSheik posted:

Don't dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back. Plenty of people do important things. Your sarcasm about what you do being useless is a slight of your own imagination, I don't think its useless and never have. Keep on the subject please and see the point that all the things you do don't have to be done with federal money. Why did you immediately go to the conclusion that it does? Would any of your projects go undone if the feds stopped funding them (assuming that they do.)?



I am just quoting you, are you unable to read what you yourself wrote?

Yes they would, without the collection of taxes these projects would never be built, the privare sector does not, nor have they really ever built these kind of projects, and that goes back to the days of Rome and beyond.

If you have a new concept of civilization why don't you spend some time writing a book since you are not fettered by logic or human history in your understanding of civics and how it relates to how public works are built, which we enjoy as part of our modern civilization.

I am sick to death of the dumbing down on reality, expoused by current conservative leadership and oft repeated by fools who have no understanding of what it takes to make civilization as we know it exist.

 

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Rhodoman  4 stars
Posts: 1,397
Registered: 2001-6-14 21:02:19
combat_mage_sc posted:

Everyone hates congress, but they loooooooooove their own representatives.

My Congressman is Pete Stark.

No Like.

Rho

 

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AliHajiSheik  1 star
Posts: 143
Registered: 2003-1-5 08:42:33
Hyperimiator posted:

AliHajiSheik posted:

Don't dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back. Plenty of people do important things. Your sarcasm about what you do being useless is a slight of your own imagination, I don't think its useless and never have. Keep on the subject please and see the point that all the things you do don't have to be done with federal money. Why did you immediately go to the conclusion that it does? Would any of your projects go undone if the feds stopped funding them (assuming that they do.)?



I am just quoting you, are you unable to read what you yourself wrote?

Yes they would, without the collection of taxes these projects would never be built, the privare sector does not, nor have they really ever built these kind of projects, and that goes back to the days of Rome and beyond.

If you have a new concept of civilization why don't you spend some time writing a book since you are not fettered by logic or human history in your understanding of civics and how it relates to how public works are built, which we enjoy as part of our modern civilization.

I am sick to death of the dumbing down on reality, expoused by current conservative leadership and oft repeated by fools who have no understanding of what it takes to make civilization as we know it exist.



Seriously, are you debating with someone else? To be fair, I reread my posts on this thread and I see nothing I wrote that indicates that you are useless.

I think you have reading comprehension issues because I was very clear when I wrote that I don't believe that that Federal Government should be funding many of these types of projects. Either you didn't read that clearly or you don't distinguish between the Federal Government and the state governments. Here's a hint, when you go to sign the back of a check from the State of Hawai'i, most likely some of that money comes from your neighbors, but oftentimes, the money is actually from the Feds who funnel it through the states. If the good citizens of Hawai'i, through their elected representatives, want to secure your services for a worthwhile project, then they shouldn't use my federal tax dollars to do it. There are plenty of things that need to be done in my own state.

No one likes paying taxes but they always seem to want strangers to pay them. Case in point, the Hawai'i Transient Accommodations tax. Very clever setting up a tax that almost no local has to pay.

Oh, and stop with the imagery of you holding back the barbarians in defense of civilization. Sanctimony isn't one of your better virtues.

 

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