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Arc_DT  2 stars
Title: Mithan said I am smart
Posts: 363
Registered: 2002-5-28 08:25:51
Rhodoman posted:

I wonder if a ride to the polls that parties have been giving people for decades are worth more than $1.



I don't know, but if those rides weren't in Wisconsin, then the specific law wouldn't apply: this is a state statute.

Quote:

12.11 Election bribery.
(1) In this section, "anything of value" includes any amount of money, or any object which has utility independent
of any political message it contains and the value of which exceeds $1. The prohibitions of this section apply to the
distribution of material printed at public expense and available for free distribution if such materials are accompanied by
a political message.

(1m) Any person who does any of the following violates this chapter:
(a) Offers, gives, lends or promises to give or lend, or endeavors to procure, anything of value, or any office
or employment or any privilege or immunity to, or for, any elector, or to or for any other person, in order to induce
any elector to:
1. Go to or refrain from going to the polls.

2. Vote or refrain from voting.

3. Vote or refrain from voting for or against a particular person.

4. Vote or refrain from voting for or against a particular referendum; or on account of any elector having
done any of the above.

...

Whoever violates s. 12.09, 12.11 or 12.13 (1), (2) (b) 1. to 7. or (3) (a), (e), (f), (j), (k), (L), (m), (y) or (z) is guilty of a Class I felony.

...

For a Class I felony, a fine not to exceed $10,000 or imprisonment not to exceed 3 years and 6 months, or both.



It sounds silly to me, too, presuming the sandwiches weren't a direct bribe for a specific vote, but Wisconsin law is quite specific and this is a clear violation. You can't pay them $1 even to persuade them to merely go to the polls.

 

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tillsb  2 stars
Title: me
Posts: 463
Registered: 2003-7-24 20:45:26
Since all candidates are all but the same. I would vote for the one who gave me a sandwich.
tantallous  1 star
Title: Thought Police
Posts: 192
Registered: 2002-1-11 23:14:32
levgre posted:

OG_Loki posted:

Give me a break!



Now that would be legal, kit kats are under the 1$ threshhold



really? they are like.. $1.20 or so here.

 

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Jesus.Christ..  1 star
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Registered: 2011-5-20 16:21:16
Arc_DT posted:

For a Class I felony, a fine not to exceed $10,000 or imprisonment not to exceed 3 years and 6 months, or both.



So if Mitt is a felon, does that mean he cant vote, but can still run for President?

 

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JD_HOGG  4 stars
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I wonder how much creative splicing went into this "report."
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Fozzie_Bear posted:

free transport of voters to the voting center should be a standard and managed by the voting commission of the states... we have absentee ballots right? same deal.



Why stop there? Let's just have a vote counter visit everyone at their home to get their vote so that no one is inconvenienced.
-Abysmal-  4 stars
Posts: 1,328
Registered: 2000-12-20 06:45:24
what's the cost of the sandwich?
was it the full sandwich handed out?
was there a discount for the large order?

seems to me there would be some mention of these...maybe in the video there was?

OH and didn't the Democrats throw barbeques for the recall elections?

plus as i have witnessed working in government for about 10 years now, how you word things plays a HUGE part in these things.

 

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HeartView  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-20 08:11:56
They should have given out lottery tickets instead.

 

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purplehugmonkey  2 stars
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Registered: 2005-5-16 18:42:03
The government should just provide free sandwiches to encourage civic participation. Sandwiches are generally delicious.

That way it benefits all candidates equally and everybody gets a free sandwich.

 

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purplehugmonkey posted:

The government should just provide free sandwiches to encourage civic participation. Sandwiches are generally delicious.

That way it benefits all candidates equally and everybody gets a free sandwich.



well according to above, that is illegal in that state.

 

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