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Author Topic: Do homosexuals have the right to fly the rainbow flag on military bases? [Locked]
BritonGuy  4 stars
Title: Serious Business
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Registered: 2004-3-4 20:43:50
Dark_EternalFF posted:

I FARTED



A more thoughtful reply than TUG's no-reply, I suppose.

 

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Ordal  2 stars
Posts: 250
Registered: 2001-5-24 12:51:34
BritonGuy posted:

Dark_EternalFF posted:

I FARTED



A more thoughtful reply than TUG's no-reply, I suppose.



As well as anything Cawlin has ever posted.

 

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Gildash  3 stars
Posts: 515
Registered: 2001-4-26 16:26:13
Fozzie_Bear posted:

they can do whatever regulations tell them they can do. if it says they can then they can.

its that simple



This.

If regulations say you can fly any flag you want, it being a gay pride flag has nothing to do with it.

 

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Ordal  2 stars
Posts: 250
Registered: 2001-5-24 12:51:34
Gildash posted:

Fozzie_Bear posted:

they can do whatever regulations tell them they can do. if it says they can then they can.

its that simple



This.

If regulations say you can fly any flag you want, it being a gay pride flag has nothing to do with it.

 

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aon_mixed  4 stars
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as i mentioned on page 1, base conditions dont really allow for any flag (other than the US Flag in most conditons) to fly, particularly in a foreign country.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Ordal posted:

Sorry but as the question stands, you are incorrect and I am correct. This is not a "semantics" issue or whatever you want to call it, it's a question of rights which is what was asked. If the OP wanted a position based on opinion then they would have phrased the question differently.

"Fact: a rule ceases to be meaningful or even valid unless it is uniformly enforced. If you allow someone to break the rule, then you must allow everyone to break it or you lose the authority to enforce the rule. "

Factually, conceptually, and pragmatically incorrect.



Wrong again.

Selectively deciding to enforce a rule against one group of people and not another is called discrimination. So if you allow a Nascar Flag but disallow a rainbow flag, you're discriminating.

To the question at hand: As I've said numerous times already, if personal flags are allowed to be flown, then anyone should be allowed to fly any flag they want. Period.

Personally I think NO personal flags ought to be flown on military bases, precisely to avoid this kind of nonsense.

 

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Lokkie_the_Fierce  3 stars
Posts: 697
Registered: 2002-12-12 15:17:57
TheUnholyGhost posted:

Absofrakinglutely not.

I don't particularly care who you sleep with, but keep it to your goddamn self.

No agenda should be pushed on military bases...

You're here. You're queer. We're fraking used to it....shut the hell up already.

You don't know how many of my gay friends wish these over the top f__s (their words, not mine) would just shut their mouths and live their lives.

You don't see S&M weirdos and sheep f__kers advertising their deviant sexual lifestyle...



Here here! Wish those straight people would stop advertising their deviant sexual lifestyle though.

 

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Ordal  2 stars
Posts: 250
Registered: 2001-5-24 12:51:34
Cawlin posted:

Selectively deciding to enforce a rule against one group of people and not another is called discrimination. So if you allow a Nascar Flag but disallow a rainbow flag, you're discriminating.



lololololol look at you changing your tone completely now hahahahahah. Also, whether it is discriminatory or not there are plenty of discriminatory rules that are still perfectly enforced with great authority. Whether or not you agree is irrelevant. I should have expected such drivel from a nascar fan. Wow.


Cawlin posted:

To the question at hand: As I've said numerous times already, if personal flags are allowed to be flown, then anyone should be allowed to fly any flag they want. Period.



That isn't the question at hand. C'mon you've got to do better, this is far too easy.

 

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BritonGuy  4 stars
Title: Serious Business
Posts: 1,567
Registered: 2004-3-4 20:43:50
Ordal posted:

BritonGuy posted:

Dark_EternalFF posted:

I FARTED



A more thoughtful reply than TUG's no-reply, I suppose.



As well as anything Cawlin has ever posted.



True. Cawlin quickly went off the path of rational debate with hypotheticals, and instead of returning to the original argument (which would require him to concede to your point), he keeps squeezing those ludicrous hypotheticals in desperation.

You have the upper hand, what does he possibly hope to achieve?

 

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BritonGuy  4 stars
Title: Serious Business
Posts: 1,567
Registered: 2004-3-4 20:43:50
Cawlin; you more or less agree with Ordal. And yet you've spent like 2 pages arguing against him for the sake of pride, not wanting to lose, or just plain ignorance of what his opinion is.

Ignore your hypothetical tangent situations and read his opinion. It's pretty easy to understand, and it isn't in any way discriminatory or wrong.

 

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