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JaggedOne
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I bought a StarDrop gem (which gives +20% to stat buff effectiveness) to try with my Saracen Scout CL buffs and self-buffs in the hopes of a juicy bump to my DEX. I was disappointed with the results. My unbuffed DEX is 249. Adding my CL DEX (+26 delve) raised it to 276 w/o the StarDrop, and 281 with it, an increase of 1.8%. Then adding in my red DEX/QUI buff (+72 delve), it went up from 276 to 366 w/o the StarDrop, and to 374 from 281 with it, and increase of 2.2%. So the overall diff with the StarDrop was 374 DEX vs. 366, or a paltry 2.2%.

BTW, the tooltip on my DEX says:

140 Base
+101/101 (2 over cap)
+8 Realm Ability bonus
+125 Buffs/Debuffs


Why did I only get 2.2% with the StarDrop, instead of the 20% I was expecting? Is there a hard cap for buffs, like maybe 125 ?
DAoC-Eleven
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Registered: 2001-12-20 06:47:57
Any +stat enhancement only adds that percentage onto the BUFF SPELL itself, not your TOTAL attribute. I think you are confused as to the way it works.

Your CL dex buff is 26, 20% of that is 5.2...with Stardrop your CL dex buff is now 31.2, not 26

Your Red buff is 72, 20% of that is 14.4...with Stardrop your Red buff is now 86.4, not 72

Stardrop has nothing to do with your base starting dex, and never has. It only affect buffs.

 

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Soazak  1 star
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2.2% might be your overall stat increase, but the stardrop is increase to your buffbonus. So you gained +27 without buffbonus, +32 with it...thats nearly a 20% increase

 

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DoorknobMLF  3 stars
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no offense but what are you complaining about, the way that math works?

20% buff bonus is 20% buff bonus, it gives you a 20% bonus to your buffs. So uh... were you expecting more or something? I didn't read your whole post, so forgive me if I'm mistaken about something.

Make sure you are not overcapped on buff bonus already.

 

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JaggedOne posted:

I bought a StarDrop gem (which gives +20% to stat buff effectiveness) to try with my Saracen Scout CL buffs and self-buffs in the hopes of a juicy bump to my DEX. I was disappointed with the results. My unbuffed DEX is 249. Adding my CL DEX (+26 delve) raised it to 276 w/o the StarDrop, and 281 with it, an increase of 1.8%. Then adding in my red DEX/QUI buff (+72 delve), it went up from 276 to 366 w/o the StarDrop, and to 374 from 281 with it, and increase of 2.2%. So the overall diff with the StarDrop was 374 DEX vs. 366, or a paltry 2.2%.

BTW, the tooltip on my DEX says:

140 Base
+101/101 (2 over cap)
+8 Realm Ability bonus
+125 Buffs/Debuffs


Why did I only get 2.2% with the StarDrop, instead of the 20% I was expecting? Is there a hard cap for buffs, like maybe 125 ?



I am not a numbers guru, but here is what I found when I toyed with them.

The Stardrop adds a 20% bonus to the buff number for each buff individually. That is, the CL buff of 26pts becomes 31.2, and the self spec buff becomes 86.4, for a combined total of 117.6. Rounded up, its 118.

Add 118 to your base dex of 249 = 367, but it may have been rounded off to 366 somehow. The +8 RA bonus is THEN added on top to come out to 374.

Now, you say your 'unbuffed' dex is 249, is that BASE dex or after RA bonus? I may be washed up here, because even my numbers don't make sense. +26 CL buff plus 72 self buff = 98 with no buff bonus; added to your 'base' dex of 249 = 347, a number I do not see reflected in your post.

What I am pretty sure of is that the Stardrop adds 20% to each buff bonus before it is applied to your total; it does not get applied to your total dex after buffs. If the 20% was added AFTER your buffs were applied, you would have dex of about 416.

 

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JaggedOne
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Thanks for jerking me back into reality, guys. I don't WTF I was thinking. I am gonna write this who Twisted Math Seizure off to bad sushi and just never speak of it again.

BTW, *is* there a hard cap for buffs ?

Thanks again!!
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Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
JaggedOne posted:

My unbuffed DEX is 249. Adding my CL DEX (+26 delve) raised it to 276 w/o the StarDrop, and 281 with it, an increase of 1.8%.


floor(1.2 * 26) = 31


JaggedOne posted:

Then adding in my red DEX/QUI buff (+72 delve), it went up from 276 to 366 w/o the StarDrop, and to 374 from 281 with it, and increase of 2.2%. So the overall diff with the StarDrop was 374 DEX vs. 366, or a paltry 2.2%.


Spec stat buffs (s/c, d/q, acuity) are capped at 93.

 

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DarkPCK  2 stars
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JaggedOne posted:

BTW, *is* there a hard cap for buffs ?


bases (62 at 50): floor(1.25 * recipient's level)
specs (93 at 50): floor(1.875 * recipient's level)

 

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poenadare  2 stars
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Registered: 2001-11-5 08:09:53
i think this is where I point out Charplan has a panel that lets you calculate you stats with RA and buffs

 

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Lorderl  1 star
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also get/make some other item with 5% more stat buff for 25% buffs

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