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Dabombrever
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1. Chaining styles. I hate the fact that casters and as far as i know VAMPS are the only classes that have a lvl 50 spam able spell/style even the alb scout cant spam arrows

2. 5 sec slam - HATE it - 5 sec slam on a toon with det is all but a mute point - might as well as used numb - and were i would use that time to get away or take advantage of it as it was intended i cant bcuz shot times on a scout are too long - or - positioning time along with chain styles again takes too long

3. 65% blocking cap - hate it!

4. NS- can now cast bolts like casters - im all for adding to a class giving them something new to play with but to add something new or improve it and take away from the rest of the classes like 5 sec slam adds to the balance issues -


After leaving daoc bcuz of the changes made to the reaver for example:
1. nerfed levi
2. increased miss rate
3. higher costs to use sr spells
4. chained styles
4. 65% block cap
5. added hard cap to all magic damage
6. now a 5 sec slam..lmao
7. reduced WS cap
Anyway - so im trying out my scout and i find that the crit shot got nerfed - 5 sec slam - and the rr5 ability was improved. Problem i see is that for everything that was taken away doesnt equal for the one thing changed.

i dont play alot and at this time cant see any reason why i should continue
DoorknobMLF  3 stars
Posts: 627
Registered: 2008-3-2 09:16:57
so u don't like daoc cuz they nerfed reavers and scouts?

 

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DoorknobMLF  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-3-2 09:16:57
Dabombrever posted:

Problem i see is that for everything that was taken away doesnt equal for the one thing changed.

Yes, that's called a "nerf".

 

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Devaster-S-  1 star
Posts: 248
Registered: 2003-1-27 16:54:15
Dabombrever posted:

1. Chaining styles. I hate the fact that casters and as far as i know VAMPS are the only classes that have a lvl 50 spam able spell/style even the alb scout cant spam arrows

2. 5 sec slam - HATE it - 5 sec slam on a toon with det is all but a mute point - might as well as used numb - and were i would use that time to get away or take advantage of it as it was intended i cant bcuz shot times on a scout are too long - or - positioning time along with chain styles again takes too long

3. 65% blocking cap - hate it!

4. NS- can now cast bolts like casters - im all for adding to a class giving them something new to play with but to add something new or improve it and take away from the rest of the classes like 5 sec slam adds to the balance issues -


After leaving daoc bcuz of the changes made to the reaver for example:
1. nerfed levi
2. increased miss rate
3. higher costs to use sr spells
4. chained styles
4. 65% block cap
5. added hard cap to all magic damage
6. now a 5 sec slam..lmao
7. reduced WS cap
Anyway - so im trying out my scout and i find that the crit shot got nerfed - 5 sec slam - and the rr5 ability was improved. Problem i see is that for everything that was taken away doesnt equal for the one thing changed.

i dont play alot and at this time cant see any reason why i should continue



Determination does not work against melee stuns. 5 sec slam will last 5 seconds against any class. I will agree that the nerf really hurt a lot of hybrid classes and tank classes though.

NS cannot bolt like casters. They can nuke for ~300 if they template for it (gimping melee capability). But I do think the delve is too high.

 

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Der_Huhn_Teufel  1 star
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1.) What is the complaint here exactly? Every archer I've ever played can "spam" arrows. If you need interrupts, use rapid fire. If you need close range damage, use point blank shot. Even the standard shot fires plenty fast.

2). Melee stuns are affected by determination now? Also, engage + L35 off-block 8s stun is your friend.

3.) Don't really care one way or the other here because it's really doubtful you were ever hitting it in the first place.

4) NSs don't have bolts.

Troll moar.
DoorknobMLF  3 stars
Posts: 627
Registered: 2008-3-2 09:16:57
no, he's pissed that he can't take out heavy tanks on his scout because they have 65% blocking cap.

 

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Der_Huhn_Teufel  1 star
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DoorknobMLF posted:

no, he's pissed that he can't take out heavy tanks on his scout because they have 65% blocking cap.



Still doesn't work when stunned. And heavy tanks with shields should be a nightmare for archers to take out. That's pretty much the one thing designed to negate them.
Windwalkr  1 star
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Registered: 2002-7-26 11:47:42
Was the intent of this post to get every single fact in it wrong? If so, you succeeded!

1) Styles and shots can be spammed just like spells
2) Slam is not affected by Det (Hint: Use Mangle if you want 8s duration.)
3) Blocking cap isn't 65%
4) NSs don't cast bolts

Reavers continue to be one of the strongest visi solo classes in the game despite the nerfs, and they've also received some boosts with the boosted insta LT damage. All non-heavy tanks are equally affected by the Slam nerf, so this both hurts and helps you. Use some of the other Shield styles, it just requires slightly more skill now then the old Slam->Levy->Levy-Levy->Dead.

I wish Reavers could get Charge in order to be more group friendly (and Alb needs another Charge class IMO), but without some more nerfs that is probably not very likely to happen.

Still, there are very few melee classes that best a Reaver 1v1, or Xv1 for that matter.

 

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Devaster-S-  1 star
Posts: 248
Registered: 2003-1-27 16:54:15
Windwalkr posted:

Was the intent of this post to get every single fact in it wrong? If so, you succeeded!

1) Styles and shots can be spammed just like spells
2) Slam is not affected by Det (Hint: Use Mangle if you want 8s duration.)
3) Blocking cap isn't 65%
4) NSs don't cast bolts

Reavers continue to be one of the strongest visi solo classes in the game despite the nerfs, and they've also received some boosts with the boosted insta LT damage. All non-heavy tanks are equally affected by the Slam nerf, so this both hurts and helps you. Use some of the other Shield styles, it just requires slightly more skill now then the old Slam->Levy->Levy-Levy->Dead.

I wish Reavers could get Charge in order to be more group friendly (and Alb needs another Charge class IMO), but without some more nerfs that is probably not very likely to happen.

Still, there are very few melee classes that best a Reaver 1v1, or Xv1 for that matter.



Wouldn't help Reavers.

 

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Shadow Syndicate [-S-]
Chesapeake - Ultima Online
Idealistgamer  2 stars
Posts: 274
Registered: 2011-1-9 21:38:25
Dabombrever posted:

1. Chaining styles. I hate the fact that casters and as far as i know VAMPS are the only classes that have a lvl 50 spam able spell/style even the alb scout cant spam arrows


2. 5 sec slam - HATE it - 5 sec slam on a toon with det is all but a mute point - might as well as used numb - and were i would use that time to get away or take advantage of it as it was intended i cant bcuz shot times on a scout are too long - or - positioning time along with chain styles again takes too long


3. 65% blocking cap - hate it!


4. NS- can now cast bolts like casters - im all for adding to a class giving them something new to play with but to add something new or improve it and take away from the rest of the classes like 5 sec slam adds to the balance issues -


After leaving daoc bcuz of the changes made to the reaver for example:

1. nerfed levi

2. increased miss rate

3. higher costs to use sr spells

4. chained styles

4. 65% block cap

5. added hard cap to all magic damage

6. now a 5 sec slam..lmao

7. reduced WS cap

Anyway - so im trying out my scout and i find that the crit shot got nerfed - 5 sec slam - and the rr5 ability was improved. Problem i see is that for everything that was taken away doesnt equal for the one thing changed.


i dont play alot and at this time cant see any reason why i should continue



We hate you, lol

 

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