Hi
I played DAoC from launch up to right before ToA was released. I've recently returned and started a couple new characters to re-learn the game again. I've been having fun in the lower level BGs and am really digging the game again.

Everything was great until I got to Molvik when I get denied to join groups because I'm not "templated". I see all the templates on the forums and even downloaded Loki to try and wrap my head around it, and its pretty daunting. I've searched online and haven't really found a good guide or explanation of how to read templates or even how they work. If anyone knows of any please share.

At this point I'm wondering if its even worth continuing with DAoC.
Do all the 50 RvR groups have uber godly gear requirements?
Is the game so tuned to gear that its pointless to play if you don't have x chestpiece with x rings and x weapons?
Do you have to be in a crazy huge guild with crafters in order to get said gear?

You can fairly easily create a decent template. It's basically a case of diminishing returns. After a certain point, you get less return for your time spent templating and your plats.

Just cover your bases and you should be good. I'd suggest researching your class' "must-have" items and only worry about that plus basic stats. You can easily Google templates for most classes that are cheap and attainable.

 

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Start off slow, just skip molvik for now and come back on a dif toon later.. Just head to Cathal Valley and start a template for that toon.


It's really simple, at 45 start doing glass quests in ToA, fairly easy to get a group going. Stop at 49 so you don't cap out of CV (cathal valley) max lvl is 49 for CV. After doing glass quests from 45-49 you should have a couple thousand glass for some arties/ml xp (ML cap for CV is ML5 dont go over!).


Repeat glass quests for easy money/glass. Most CV templates are cheap around 20p-30p max. Can easily make that in glass quests alone. Just look at the class boards here for CV templates.


Edit: Also CV Bounty Point armor/weps/jewelry isn't THAT Bad. My vamp used it from RR2-RR4L4

 

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Hm, ok. I was told that if you don't max out RR in each BG that you wouldn't be able to compete in CV at all. Wrong?

Totally wrong. Moreover, you will gain the RR you skipped a lot faster because everyone is worth more at the higher level so even if you start out (technically) a little behind you will catch right up.

Molvik has a relatively large(for bgs) population of players who just stay there perpetually. Think of them as the backwards natives and just pass right through. Most everyone else will be cool.

But you will want to get a basic template together by level 50. While it doesn't need to be super leet it needs to have basic functionality which you can easily get done.

 

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Thanks for the replies

One other noob question, I tried to buy some pots off the market/auction vendor in the housing area and nothing happens. I click buy and the window closes and nada.

If the house you try to buy from says ywain-# you have to zone over to that instance first. It's an annoying relic of their clustering servers. When you are on the same server it will say the name of the part of housing that the house is in.

 

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Lil fyi, we had temps pre-SI. We had even better temps after SI!

Templates have always been a huge part of late game daoc, since that mentality has been around for so long its filtered down to the bgs. In fact, if you weren't temped in Thidranki during the pre-toa era you would get rolled so hard by people who were temped. You just didn't know why we were killing you.

To compete in wow pvp you need to have pvp gear which will take you weeks to get. To compete in wow pve you need gear which has a particular rating or you won't be able to raid. To get this you have to farm dungeons for a couple weeks (if not more). What you're complaining about is the mmo genre, not daoc. I use wow as an example because its the staple by which all mmos have been based off of since it came out. Sorry but your cry of, "At this point I'm wondering if its even worth continuing with DAoC." bothered me. Seems like you got mad because people wouldn't group with you, you didn't understand why, thus this game sux.


Now for the solution:





No. You can do it without a guild.

Templates are not a hard thing to aquire. First I would not try to build one. With all my talk above, I haven't tried to make my own template since toa came out. There are lots of people that do a fabulous job of it, so all you need to do is some research. Go to your class boards and skim the last 10 pages for *x class* Molv Temp threads. If you want to search deeper still google *x class* Molvik template (or whatever bg you are looking for. Note: I try and only work off of temps from 2011+, not sure if anything before that can still be viable).

Read the reviews of the temps, there will always be smack but try and understand what are important things for your classes temp ie. capped dex, power pool %, zo bracer... you don't even have to understand why people think that you need to have x item. Just know that since the majority of people feel it's important, it probably is. You will figure the rest out as time progresses.

Once you have chosen your temp you now have a list of gear to get and you have no idea how. ZAM Is a not so great version of wowhead/thottbot. It has mostly up to date information about where all the gear comes from. You will find that in CV a lot of the gear comes from the dragon merchant which means you need scales. In Molvik a lot of the gear comes from the BP merchant which means you need BPs. They will both have artis which means you need glass.

Notice how not once have I talked about killing boss mobs with raids. Today it's simply currency. Currency buys the items or it buys other currencies, voila. Farm plat through glass quests and buy the dragon gear you need, or farm scales by running the frontier scale quests. Some gear is still farmed but just buy it off the CM. If an item is stupid expensive, like 50p, pick another temp. Afterwards, buy the crafted pieces and find a spellcrafter in your capital city to finish them for you.


As other people stated, you don't need to have the best temp, you just need a viable one. I am also a returned player of 6+ years ago and over the last month I have lvled and temped 2 (almost 3) CV characters and 2 Molvik ones. It's pretty easy. To be honest you will probably have more success playing in molvik then CV. From a learning stand point molvik is great for the basics of rvr/8vX pvp because it teaches you how to play your class. The cast times are more forgiving and there aren't many use abilities. If you get frustrated in CV at the beginning don't sweat it and lvl/temp a molv toon. You will be able to hit cv after a few weeks of running molv for sure. Note: you will still need a lvl 45-50 to run glass quests and temp a molvik toon. It only takes like 4 hours or so to get a toon to molv though.


This game is really easy to get geared for so you can compete on an even playing field. Much easier than others. You just need to know how.

 

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