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PowPowParn
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since BD pets no longer assist.
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recently reupped and went to pvp on my BD and learned some nasty tidbits. with that said, i feel a slight bump is in order. they are still a very solid class, fun solo toon but with all the pets alb and hib gets, sometimes the interrupts show a glaring difference in pet warfare.
and since mid lacks a charm class that goes above max level of 50, i think the BD should be able to forgo the summoning of minion pets and beef up the pet so that it is level 55. this is mainly to counter the fact that these higher level pets break MoC and mid lacks this feature.
or at least fixing ml9/juggy to affect a caster pets DD damage. this would also be a bump for zealot pets and i suppose ruby sims or any pet that casts. now i only ml9 my pet so that he has more HP, but i don't even know if that's the case.
flame on or discuss~ just something basic to help the class that ate i think 3 nerfs to rupts ? (zone of unmana/instant body/no splitting pets)
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PowPowParn posted:
recently reupped and went to pvp on my BD and learned some nasty tidbits. with that said, i feel a slight bump is in order. they are still a very solid class, fun solo toon but with all the pets alb and hib gets, sometimes the interrupts show a glaring difference in pet warfare.
and since mid lacks a charm class that goes above max level of 50, i think the BD should be able to forgo the summoning of minion pets and beef up the pet so that it is level 55. this is mainly to counter the fact that these higher level pets break MoC and mid lacks this feature.
or at least fixing ml9/juggy to affect a caster pets DD damage. this would also be a bump for zealot pets and i suppose ruby sims or any pet that casts. now i only ml9 my pet so that he has more HP, but i don't even know if that's the case.
flame on or discuss~ just something basic to help the class that ate i think 3 nerfs to rupts ? (zone of unmana/instant body/no splitting pets)
I like the idea of ML9/Juggy effecting casted pet damage. But lolno at level 55 BD pets. That's just a bad idea.
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orrime
Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2010-4-15 03:34:07
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PowPowParn posted:
with all the pets [...] hib gets, sometimes the interrupts show a glaring difference in pet warfare.
Wait whut ?
Also what's wrong with BDs currently ? Their pet is very effective against both tanks and casters. About ML9/jugg : you can't have a pet that perma snares & diseases someone and kills it fast on top of it.
Sure BDs are more efective when facing hibrid or tank groups, but they are still very decent against all-mages.
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PowPowParn
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common extend hib grp will have tanglers chanter pet 1/2 drood pets. yes druid pets are grey but its still a rupt. most groups we ran across also had a ment for whatever reason. and although our support was terrible, they got ripped by the higher con pet eating through their MoC.
and the caster pet yes can dd snare, but so can the melee pet use snare styles, and the melee pet actually hurts, the caster pet was never a threat and i think even if level 70 wont be doing anywhere near the damage a runnie or whatever 50 spec ddsnare can do. but it will force people to make the pet a priority or at the very least make the healers earn their keep.
the higher level pet was just a thought. i was reminded of white lions in failhammer where you can spec a way to where you did more damage without the lion out. you lose some utility for the sake of more single target damage.
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orrime
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animists aren't common, and they usually take the chanter's slot. Which leaves you with 1 summoned pet, 1 charmed pet, 1 level 32 druid pet and 1 level 7 druid pet (in the worst case, as druids don't always cast their pets).
A common mid hybrid group (RM SM SM or RM SM BD) will have 2 pets for 3 mages, a common caster group (RM SM SM BD) will have 3 for 4 mages.
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DarkPCK
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PowPowParn posted:
since BD pets no longer assist.
You mean no longer split, right...?
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DarkPCK
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PowPowParn posted:
flame on or discuss~ just something basic to help the class that ate i think 3 nerfs to rupts ? (zone of unmana/instant body/no splitting pets)
Fixes aren't nerfs. Body debuff was not meant to interrupt for the past five years since 1.87. The same is true of ML1 and ML9 in Banelord from 1.84.
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DarkPCK
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PowPowParn posted:
common extend hib grp will have tanglers chanter pet 1/2 drood pets. yes druid pets are grey but its still a rupt. most groups we ran across also had a ment for whatever reason. and although our support was terrible, they got ripped by the higher con pet eating through their MoC.
You can use CL styles on druid pets or just call for a clear and kill it in 1-2 nukes. Ments are used primarily for heat spec nuke, demezzing others, and breaking their own mezzes/roots. Most will keep their pets near them for cc breaking, so it's not being sent in the back on support.
PowPowParn posted:
it will force people to make the pet a priority or at the very least make the healers earn their keep.
Pet clears are a priority as is.
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DarkPCK
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PowPowParn posted:
but with all the pets alb and hib gets, sometimes the interrupts show a glaring difference in pet warfare.
Hib groups gets as many pets as Mid groups (and the BD sub pets are not being counted).
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